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Football Thread 2014/2015 |OT11| This Is Our Year!

TeddyBoy

Member
Why is Borini still here?

Read that he basically ruined everything against Leicester, and prevented more chances than he helped.

Borini wants wages so high no one will take him. After being frozen out of the squad for so long he's now into the stage were he tries too much and fails massively :(
 

Blablurn

Member
Why the fuck did they call this show Marco Polo? It is basically the story of Kubla Khan.

and oh sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. i just wikipedia the show to find out who one of the hot actresses was and it is Zhu Zhu.

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Lapo's old Asian flame.

zhu zhu is soooooo hoooot. <3
 

Blablurn

Member
Yeah, I have been marathon watching it the last two days and she stood out for me.

Man I wish I was Lapo

Do you know the movie Shanghai Calling? Besides being an awesome movie, it also features a reeeeally nice looking Zhu Zhu.

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ooooh boi.

i guess i have to give marco polo a shot then.
 
@Zabo, how much have you spent on Star Citizen, and on what particularly?

@PC knobends, what are the advantages of monitors over modern TVs for PC gaming , aside from refresh rates?
 
No question Scholes is/was the best player of the three. Scholes basically dictated the midfield in a way that neither Gerrard or Lampard ever could. He was the equivalent of Barcelona's Xavi, though arguably more attacking, with a better passing range and a better shot. To this day the decision to shunt him to the left for England baffles me. The one player over the last 15-20 years who could have dictated play and actually helped you control the midfield against better opposition and maybe given you a chance of actually being a team who could do something in a major tournament - which Lampard and Gerrard could never offer.
 

Zabojnik

Member
@Zabo, how much have you spent on Star Citizen, and on what particularly?

I don't even know. Probably somewhere between 150-200$. I have a Hornet and an Avenger + I pledged for the collector's edition boxed version in the initial campaign. Nothing too crazy.

@PC knobends, what are the advantages of monitors over modern TVs for PC gaming , aside from refresh rates?

Ultra low input lag and pixel response time, especially with TN based monitors. TVs generally use 'slower' IPS/VA panels. It only really matters if you're a competitive gamer and/or very susceptible to ghosting and stuff. Monitors also come with (highly, in some cases) adjustable stands.
 

Turok_TTZ

Member
Aye. He's certainly no La Liga beast like Soldado.

Sit the fuck down.
Spain lacks talent in both defense and especially up front.

Spain don't make forwards like Villa and Torres prime anymore. Jese is but one kid with so much to prove yet so little time and minutes.

La Liga got weaker as well. Now it is only Real madrid. atletico struggles too much against small fry to threaten again and farsa are led by an incompetent rather than a proper coach who knows his tactics. as boring as the donkey league now. Juve will win serie a again and only marseille in france is providing any real entertainment denying psg top spot.

this footy year sucks.

only consolation is that bielsa has proven he aint senile yet.
 
No question Scholes is/was the best player of the three. Scholes basically dictated the midfield in a way that neither Gerrard or Lampard ever could. He was the equivalent of Barcelona's Xavi, though arguably more attacking,, with a better passing range and a better shot. To this day the decision to shunt him to the left for England baffles me. The one player over the last 15-20 years who could have dictated play and actually helped you control the midfield against better opposition and maybe given you a chance of actually being a team who could do something in a major tournament - which Lampard and Gerrard could never offer.

I think that last bit is way OTT tbh. Both Lampard and Gerrard were world class, and would have been for England if they weren't shoved together, and we instead built the team around one of them. Neither of them could have ever single-handedly controlled a top international match like Scholes, Xavi, Alonso, Pirlo could, but either of them could have played a big part in helping the team do it.

Unfortunately, from the ground up for the last 25+ years, the England setup at all levels has not been about dictating matches, but winning them with individual moments and performances.

I'll never really understand why England were so reluctant to play Gerrard outside of CM when his 2 best seasons for Liverpool came from the right wing, and from behind a lone striker in front of 2 deeper CMs
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
No question Scholes is/was the best player of the three. Scholes basically dictated the midfield in a way that neither Gerrard or Lampard ever could. He was the equivalent of Barcelona's Xavi, though arguably more attacking, with a better passing range and a better shot. To this day the decision to shunt him to the left for England baffles me. The one player over the last 15-20 years who could have dictated play and actually helped you control the midfield against better opposition and maybe given you a chance of actually being a team who could do something in a major tournament - which Lampard and Gerrard could never offer.
you're right, but you know why? Because Scholes is a different type of midfielder. I don't know how you can compare him to Lampard and Gerrard, they don't really have the same characteristics or roles & responsibilities on the pitch

Gerrard is (was) the most complete of the three, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's better than Lamps or anything.


He is (was) though.
 
I don't even know. Probably somewhere between 150-200$. I have a Hornet and an Avenger + I pledged for the collector's edition boxed version in the initial campaign. Nothing too crazy.



Ultra low input lag and pixel response time, especially with TN based monitors. TVs generally use 'slower' IPS/VA panels. It only really matters if you're a competitive gamer and/or very susceptible to ghosting and stuff.

Cheers. Sounds like it has nothing to offer me then, never noticed any delay but then I'm yet to put any serious time into a twitchy game on the PC.

Gonna reinstall Star Citizen later and see what's changed. Haven't looked at it since walking around my hornet, which is what made me realise that my old TV was only fucking 1080i :p
 
I think that last bit is way OTT tbh. Both Lampard and Gerrard were world class, and would have been for England if they weren't shoved together, and we instead built the team around one of them. Neither of them could have ever single-handedly controlled a top international match like Scholes, Alonso, Pirlo could, but either of them could have played a big part in helping the team do it.

Unfortunately, from the ground up for the last 25+ years, the England setup at all levels has not been about dictating matches, but winning them with individual moments and performances.

I'll never really understand why England were so reluctant to play Gerrard outside of CM when his 2 best seasons for Liverpool came from the right wing, and from behind a lone striker in front of 2 deeper CMs

It's that Roy of the Rovers mentality which has led to 20 years in the wilderness for British teams. Box to box, 100 mph and the ball must go forward as quickly as possible. Big strong guys, no midgets, BRAVE, sliding tackle, PASSION.

Of course, we're getting there now but changing a football culture to adapt to a possession game, technique, patience and a short passing isn't an overnight thing. Hell you still see people getting upset about Tiki Taka because they just don't get it...
 

Zabojnik

Member
Gonna reinstall Star Citizen later and see what's changed. Haven't looked at it since walking around my hornet, which is what made me realise that my old TV was only fucking 1080i :p

I don't think I've spent more than an hour in Arena Commander since they've released it. Unless you own a HOTAS and are willing to spend 5+ hours getting familiar with the flight model and modes & various ship systems, there really isn't much of a point to it. It runs reasonably well on my GTX 770, but eh, I'd rather wait for Squadron 42 than spoil the experience with an WIP and largely unoptimized build.

Try it though. Or just watch something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNWwuFw8JPQ

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It's that Roy of the Rovers mentality which has led to 20 years in the wilderness for British teams. Box to box, 100 mph and the ball must go forward as quickly as possible. Big strong guys, no midgets, BRAVE, sliding tackle, PASSION.

Of course, we're getting there now but changing a football culture to adapt to a possession game, technique, patience and a short passing game isn't an overnight thing.

I'll never understand the wilderness point either

English teams have won the Champions League 4 times since '99, with 5 other finalists (iirc)

Had some of our lesser teams put in decent performances in the Europe League as well. We've been handily overtaken in the last 3 years or so by Madrid and Bayern, but before then it was only Barca who were easily better than England's best.

For all the criticism of 'the English game,' I think its only really been historically problematic in the national setup. The blood and thunder approach, meshed with the foreign approach is what makes the PL so good if anything, imo.
 
you're right, but you know why? Because Scholes is a different type of midfielder. I don't know how you can compare him to Lampard and Gerrard, they don't really have the same characteristics or roles & responsibilities on the pitch

Gerrard is (was) the most complete of the three, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's better than Lamps or anything.


He is (was) though.

True. People do make the comparisons though and if I was picking my team and looking for a central midfielder with attacking/creative instincts I'd pick Scholes ahead of those two in a heartbeat. He is a different player, you're absolutely correct albeit played in a similar position.

I don't like this talk of a "complete" player. Maradona is easily amongst the best 3 players in history, though you'd still have heard some argue that he wasn't a complete player because he was too small. It's misdirection. Team influence is far more important than a suggestion of what complete is, which generally ends up meaning nothing more than being a tick box exercise of stats. Scholes in his pomp influenced that winning Man Utd team more consistently than Lampard or Gerrard on their respective clubs.

I'll never understand the wilderness point either

English teams have won the Champions League 4 times since '99, with 5 other finalists (iirc)

Had some of our lesser teams put in decent performances in the Europe League as well. We've been handily overtaken in the last 3 years or so by Madrid and Bayern, but before then it was only Barca who were easily better than England's best.

For all the criticism of 'the English game,' I think its only really been historically problematic in the national setup. The blood and thunder approach, meshed with the foreign approach is what makes the PL so good if anything, imo.

I was referring to international level, not club level. And Scotland, Wales, Ireland too.
 

herod

Member
Scholes didn't play in the middle for England because he was too slow, lacked stamina and couldn't tackle. He was always going to be limited by these factors so he was never going to be able to grow into the role England required. Gerrard and Lampard never really grew into the dominant centre midfield role that England required either, but they weren't physically limited like Scholes.
 
Scholes didn't play in the middle for England because he was too slow, lacked stamina and couldn't tackle. He was always going to be limited by these factors so he was never going to be able to grow into the role England required. Gerrard and Lampard never really grew into the dominant centre midfield role that England required either, but they weren't physically limited like Scholes.

Too slow? Physically limited? Lacked stamina? I'll give you he couldn't tackle, but the rest is nonsense. If you can dominate midfields in the EPL you certainly have the physical skills to perform at international level, which was slower, more technical and requires less stamina. I'm not a fan of either Chelsea, Man U or Liverpool so I've no dog in this race. But your post makes no sense whatsoever.
 
I was referring to international level, not club level. And Scotland, Wales, Ireland too.

Ah, I see.

tbf to the other 3, they barely have a 10m population between them. Scotland seems to have the focus on football and structure in place to expect much better from the national team, but Wales and Northern Ireland are doing about as well as I'd expect over the last decade or so
 

Zabojnik

Member
Surprises me you don't get on with it considering it's the best football game in years. You must just be terrible to the point of frustration.

Is online working for you and Lloyd? We should play.

Bla is pretty damn good, he's just a very unpredictable individial, which makes him so interesting.
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
The Crazy Gang is on Youtube guys


they were basically a 90's Serie A side :lol

or let's be honest, Atletico Madrid.
 

Wilbur

Banned
Let's sign:

Clyne/Coleman
Hummels/Vlaar (before going back for Hummels)
Strootman
Reus

and then lets draw 2-2 at St James' Park
 
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