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Hajime Tabata: "Currently no plans to reveal more info about Versus XIII"
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Darkstorne
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I'm mainly referencing Death Stranding. A short video of vague nothingness before he's even chosen an engine to work on let alone started work on the game, and his fans still went wild for it. I'm braced for three more E3's at least of varying gameplay trailers where Gaf analyses the cuts, changes, and buttocks downgrades.
JayBabay
Member
That means it would fit right into IGN's article on the front of the website: "The 13 Biggest Video Games That Never Came Out"
brandonh83
Banned
Haha, fucking this. I never understood it.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Understandable. They gain nothing but ire from fans over changes made.
Darkstorne
Member
For a company that went with names like Lightning, Snow, Hope, and Fang last time, Regis is pretty advanced for them =P
artsi
Member
Pretty much.
are you kidding me (directed at the quote, not you). Fucking ridiculous and tone deaf.
kingofthedead45
Member
Isn't Luna just Stella but with slightly different looks??
No, Tabata says Stella doesn't make sense for the new story so they made a new heroine.
I will never forget that 2011 trailer. It made me believe Versus XIII was going to be the best game on PS3. It's sad that the Versus dream is dead, but at least we get to see the remnants of it in a new mainline title.
I do find it weird that Versus XIII - named so because it juxtaposed with the 13 mainline titles in the form of a darker story and action RPG elements - was rebranded into the 15th mainline title lol.
I do find it weird that Versus XIII - named so because it juxtaposed with the 13 mainline titles in the form of a darker story and action RPG elements - was rebranded into the 15th mainline title lol.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Versus died..nothing remains.
thepenguin55
Member
Frankly, I think he's annoyed that people are still asking about Versus XIII despite already explaining what happened to Versus XIII. I would be annoyed too. Versus XIII is dead and FFXV was created out of its remains. MOVE ON PEOPLE. I like getting a peek behind the curtain as much as the next person but there's no real end game to this probing for answers about why Versus XIII was canned and what stuff from that game made it into XV.
Maybe a build of Versus XIII will leak one day but even then based on everything we've ever heard about Versus XIII it sounds like it was barely ever even something resembling a playable game. At some point the Versus XIII we were introduced to was scrapped and it sounds like they basically started over. The game became something so dramatically different that they eventually renamed it.
Maybe a build of Versus XIII will leak one day but even then based on everything we've ever heard about Versus XIII it sounds like it was barely ever even something resembling a playable game. At some point the Versus XIII we were introduced to was scrapped and it sounds like they basically started over. The game became something so dramatically different that they eventually renamed it.
That Respawn logic.
Their names at least were either symbolic or ironic, but Regis's name is as literal as you can get. He is the king. His name actually means, quite literally, "king".
It's like naming Noctis's actual name as "Prince" or naming your White Mage as "Healer".
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Hmmm. Didn't know they said that, I'm not saying necessarily that Cindy is "too sexy" (I'd say that her design is actually too generic and illogically over-exposed to be "sexy"), but the fact that they seem to be finding a "contradiction" between wanting a female character's design to be a bit more tasteful, and also wanting a female party member is somewhat odd. As if they think the reason people would want female party members is to see "sexy" designs, and not to have a variety of interesting characters of all backgrounds.
Considering Final Fantasy has typically had parties with both male and female members, it is very strange for them to have not seen the reasoning behind fans wanting female party members. For XV, and Versus XIII for that matter, it seems like it was always the plan for it just to be guys, so that's fine for it to stay that way, but if they can't think of any other reasons why Final Fantasy fans would want a party with female members in it besides eye-candy, that is a bit worrying for Luna and other women in this game.
I don't actually want to say I have an issue with attractive/"sexy" character design (done well, Cindy isn't for example), and am not calling for censorship of XV, just saying that if they don't see a reason for women to exist in the game besides being pretty, that's a little weird, especially coming from Final Fantasy.
TheJollyCorner
Member
I'd rather have Agni, thankyouverymuch. :}
potatohead
Member
It's not just this character that people are lamenting imo.
The Last Wizard
Member
Dammit square, we waited years for that game and y'all can't even let us know more about it.
NoctisVsStar
Member
For what? So we can complain harder for the game that we never got from Nomura?
Iva Demilcol
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One has to wonder what did Nomura do during all those years he was directing Versus XIII...
NoctisVsStar
Member
Nothing, do you forget how SE shuffled all their staff to fix 14? And the mismanagement of XIII? Nomura got the short end of the stick due to SE incompetence last gen.
illmatic22
Banned
Same. But at least we'll actually get to play XV.
vsXIII never went into full production. You can read his wiki entry to see everything he was credited in from 2006 till now.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
But wasn't he always the king? It's just that in vXIII he was portrayed more as a Yakuza boss than a traditional "sits on a throne and does king stuff" king. I definitely prefer the earlier version of him for this reason, as it set him apart from the typical kings in fantasy settings and made him seem like a king from the modern world, which fit well with the "fantasy based on reality" motif. I think his name was always redundant, it just wasn't as blatantly generic because his design and personality didn't seem so cookie-cutter.
He was directing KHDDD at the time mostly. Vs13 was more concepts and pre-dev/ early dev more than it was a full production at the time. Not to mention the 14 fiasco basically made all other internal projects halted until ARR happened.
NoctisVsStar
Member
MGSV and VersusXIII are the two "what if's?" of gaming. Kojima didn't get the chance to complete his vision and Nomura got kicked off his own project. Insane I tell you... At the very least I hope Nomura can use Noctis in future KH games.
Well, they did explain that he's aging faster than normal for plot-reasons.
But why though, why not just say "Luna is the evolution of Stella" or "Her name and look were updated."
Hell when Luna was first revealed I thought it was Stella until I found out later, they look very similar already.
Afuckingreed.
NoctisVsStar
Member
There's a reason for that.
Because he would be lying, like he was caught doing initially.
AcademicSaucer
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this cant be real
I would be sick of people asking about it tbh.
NoctisVsStar
Member
It's a diservice to the game he's trying to promote.
There's no point in talking about Versus right now. I can only see it giving more things for Versus faithful to complain about. Maybe in the future as a documentary or something, to show what was going on during one of Square's darkest times.
Xeno is a bigger what if for me. Gears being part 5 of a 6 part story, which Saga was going to retell. Neither Gears nor Saga ever finished the way it wanted to. Too ambitious of a project, but I would have loved to experience it all, no matter how long it took to complete.
Xeno is a bigger what if for me. Gears being part 5 of a 6 part story, which Saga was going to retell. Neither Gears nor Saga ever finished the way it wanted to. Too ambitious of a project, but I would have loved to experience it all, no matter how long it took to complete.
NoctisVsStar
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Tabata is basically Lebron James chasing the ghost of Nomura's (Jordan) Versus XIII. He will never win the versus faithful or the general public. It's a losing battle so it's wise to not talk about it.
Everything we sort of knew about Versus XIII
- Main character: Noctis Lucis Caelum (Still in XV)
- Main female character: Stella Nox Fleuret (Sort of not in XV, sort of)
- 3 party members that were best friends with the main (Still in XV)
- King Regis (Still in XV, but now he doesn't wear a suit and has a derpy face)
- Game starts in Insomnia with a full blown invasion. Similar to the opening of FFVII. (Not in XV, but this was reworked into Kingsglaive)
- A fantasy based on Reality (Still in XV)
- Noctis's royal family was based off the Yakuza (not in XV)
- Insomnia worship death (not in XV)
- A Venice style city (Still in XV)
- Niflhiem are the main baddies (Still in XV)
- KH combat (not in XV, but still not turn based)
- Controllable party members (not In XV)
- Noctis can see someone's death or their soul expire or some shit like that (Still in XV)
- Noctis eyes turn red (Still in XV)
- Noctis and crew wearing Roen clothing (Still in XV)
- Engine blade (Still in XV)
- Warping (Still in XV)
- Dark tone (Not in XV as far as we know)
- Road trip theme (Still in XV)
- Awesome trailers (Not in XV)
- Main character: Noctis Lucis Caelum (Still in XV)
- Main female character: Stella Nox Fleuret (Sort of not in XV, sort of)
- 3 party members that were best friends with the main (Still in XV)
- King Regis (Still in XV, but now he doesn't wear a suit and has a derpy face)
- Game starts in Insomnia with a full blown invasion. Similar to the opening of FFVII. (Not in XV, but this was reworked into Kingsglaive)
- A fantasy based on Reality (Still in XV)
- Noctis's royal family was based off the Yakuza (not in XV)
- Insomnia worship death (not in XV)
- A Venice style city (Still in XV)
- Niflhiem are the main baddies (Still in XV)
- KH combat (not in XV, but still not turn based)
- Controllable party members (not In XV)
- Noctis can see someone's death or their soul expire or some shit like that (Still in XV)
- Noctis eyes turn red (Still in XV)
- Noctis and crew wearing Roen clothing (Still in XV)
- Engine blade (Still in XV)
- Warping (Still in XV)
- Dark tone (Not in XV as far as we know)
- Road trip theme (Still in XV)
- Awesome trailers (Not in XV)
HerroRygar
Member
I don't get it either.
I do get the complaints about the shift in tone between Versus XIII and XV, however I don't care THAT much. Although the world of Versus XIII looked really cool and I'm sorry not to be able to experience it, the hook in Versus XIII that grabbed me the most was "Final Fantasy in a modern setting with real-time combat". I'm still getting that, so I'm happy.
DrunkShogun
Member
Stella will be the main character in a future ff game. square must know there's a Stella fan base that has somehow formed from the years of development.
I have no personal attachment to Stella other than the fact I prefer the design over Luna but nothing to complain about.
I have no personal attachment to Stella other than the fact I prefer the design over Luna but nothing to complain about.
The Last Wizard
Member
No, cause I wanna know all I can know about that game. I'm way past the complaining phase, I stopped caring for XV once we found out it would be Versus XIII. I just wanna know the story behind the game, the characters, scenarios, everything that's gone. Like I said, a lot of people waited for that game and it'll never come out, fair shit happens, throw us a bone and let us read about everything. I'd even pay for a tell all.
He's referring to the idea that following someone else's vision would have resulted in a compromised development process, so instead of making sure to do this or that thing Versus XIII did, he and his team were given license to go in their own direction.
Not a knock on Nomura or his vision for Versus XIII.