Viruz
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This xbox paid noise is going on for the last 15 years and it's really tiring.
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(IGN) Take-Two Boss Unconcerned by Plummeting PS5 and Xbox Sales, Insists GTA 6 Will Cause 'A Meaningful Uptick in Console Sales' in 2025
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Mr Moose
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Only 18M? RIP PS5.Do console warriors have access to data Sony executives don't have?
Sony Names Two PlayStation CEOs, Says PS5 Growth Is Likely Over
Sony announced that PS5 sales are down and are likely to stay that way as it named two new PlayStation CEOs to replace the departing Jim Ryan.www.gamespot.com
RetroGamingUK
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Pretty much, it’s PS5+XBS which is down compared to PS4+XBO, mainly because Microsoft just threw in the towel, went third party and the market abandoned their console.
HogIsland
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Publishers are trying to sell games that cost $300M+ to make. PS5 install base requires an unrealistic attach rate for such games to be successful. This isn't news. Sony execs acknowledge the problem for first party games too.
Xbox parity clause, Xbox plummets you also have to mention PS5 plummets.
HeWhoWalks
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Right?
Mr Moose
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I see the problem. Maybe they should just not? Moving away from expensive ass areas like Cali would be a good start.
Horseganador
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IGN being IGN, they are desperately trying to make a pathetic damage control by putting the two consoles in the same bag, talking about exclusives as something bad right now, etc... it doesn't work, and of course PS5 sales are going to skyrocket when GTAVI comes out, it will be the game of the decade.
IntentionalPun
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PS5 sales aren’t plummeting but it’s not quite on pace with ps4 right?
Xbox sales are not even close to XBO.
GTV had both the PS3-60 generation and the PS4-XBO generation to sell on.
Even adding Switch 2 to the mix I don’t think GTA VI will have the potential console sales that GTA V had.
Xbox sales are not even close to XBO.
GTV had both the PS3-60 generation and the PS4-XBO generation to sell on.
Even adding Switch 2 to the mix I don’t think GTA VI will have the potential console sales that GTA V had.
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Venom Snake
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bitbydeath
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GTAV made a billion dollars in 3 days.
That’s easy money.
HeWhoWalks
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In the US, it's ahead of the PS4, behind in Europe. "Plummeting" was the wrong verbiage no matter.
IntentionalPun
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Oh absolutely not arguing that.
It’s more the overall console user base available to GTA VI may never come close to the one GTA V had across its 2 gens.
Of course eventually pas6 and maybe Xbox 5 come out and get their version.
bitbydeath
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He’s been talking a lot lately which suggests it’s coming.
A Valentine’s Day drop wouldn’t be surprising since GTAVI is about a couple.
RetroGamingUK
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Do they get more clicks by pretending that the late 00s console war is still a thing or something?
HeWhoWalks
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GTA VI will have plenty to work with. For starters, it will be a huge console seller for PS5. Second, it's going to sell for a very long time.
Zacfoldor
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Do PC fanboys know more about selling GTAVI than Take Two does?Do console warriors have access to data Sony executives don't have?
Sony Names Two PlayStation CEOs, Says PS5 Growth Is Likely Over
Sony announced that PS5 sales are down and are likely to stay that way as it named two new PlayStation CEOs to replace the departing Jim Ryan.
Even if Sony's numbers fall, you still aren't getting this on PC for at least a year after it launches on PS5.
Ask yourself this question.
What about PC gaming is so contrary to making a profit, so malignant, so disgusting that TAKE-TWO have to hold the PC port for a year after launching on consoles? Why do they do that ya think, oh great prophet of gaming's future?
HogIsland
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it's coming from the precipitous drop in PS5 sales and low forecasts directly from Sony.
bitbydeath
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It’ll be later than that because they’ll wait to create a new floor with the PS6.
Imagine being this detached from reality
HogIsland
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deranged response.
HogIsland
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all my claims are sourced. you can argue with sony's reporting if you like.
Get help
twilo99
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Klayzer
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It's like screaming "I smell shit," with a fistful of shit in your hands.You two are less wizards and more well… pouring a gasoline can near a fire and shouting “I bet firefighters will show up any minute”….
Gamer_By_Proxy
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So tired of the whole xbox problems are actually industry problems narrative.
If that's the case, Series S and GP really is screwing PS5 game/console sales.
If that's the case, Series S and GP really is screwing PS5 game/console sales.
Mibu no ookami
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GTA6 and future price drops can certainly "accelerate" PS5 sales as would a handheld in the PS5 family.
Zelnick isn't the one who said it, it was IGN (multiple times).
Unknown?
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2nd highest year for PS5 so not really.
bitbydeath
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HogIsland
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if i'm "out of touch with reality" please explain the optimistic case.
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LavitzSlambert
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“When you have a big title in the market and we have many of them coming, historically that has sold consoles,” Zelnick said.
“And I think that will happen this year. I don't think tariffs are going to be our friend, but I think there will be a meaningful uptick in console sales in calendar 25 because of the release schedule, not just coming from us, but coming from others. So I'm not concerned about that [console sales falling]. I think the trend that you'd want to focus on is this increasing share of the market that is reflected in PC.”
Mibu no ookami
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They're waiting for GTA6.
it's not.
Sony Says Big PS5 Price Cut Would Be 'Very Difficult' - IGN
Sony has said a big PlayStation 5 price cut would be “very difficult” as the console enters into the second half of its life cycle.www.ign.com
I think this is being taken out of context. Harder doesn't mean impossible. We've already seen that the PS5 Pro is on a 4nm die, while the PS5 Slim is on a 6nm die. We've yet to see what Sony's plans are for either a 4nm or smaller die for the PS5 Slim, but likely either would result in a PS5 Super Slim and a lower BOM and lower price. That they haven't moved to 4nm yet, suggests they might be waiting for greater cost savings with 2nm, which will result in a significantly smaller PS5.
Either way, I think that is key to a PS5 digital that will hit 300 dollars someday. They're already willing to sell the PS5 digital for 375, not long until they're willing to sell it for 350 as is. A die shrunk PS5 Digital will probably go for 350 standard and 300 with discounting (at least initially). I think Sony has a lot of reasons to be confident in the 2nd half of the PS5's life. And there's no reason to rush into heavy discounting until GTA6 drops and fades as a true system seller.
Imagine thinking 18 million in a year is a "low forecast". How many gaming devices have hit that and in how many years? I think you've been pushing this since even last year when you said them missing their forecast was a big deal despite historic high sales of 21.8 million.
bitbydeath
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GTAVI isn’t going to have trouble selling, you’re crazy for thinking it.
Mibu no ookami
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LOL, did you even read your quote, ign had to bracket it because he didn't actually say that he simply responded to their weirdly phrased question.
LordOcidax
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Ok… And the sales still bellow SONY forecast
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Mibu no ookami
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How many PS5s do you think Sony sells this fiscal year against their forecast of 18 million? How many do you think they'll forecast for next fiscal year? How many do you think they'll sell against that forecast? How many units do you think it'll sell lifetime?
Your answers to all of these questions will be extremely telling.
LordOcidax
same questions to you as well.
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Killer8
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PS5 console sales are neck-and-neck with PS4. Everyone creamed themselves over those numbers last gen but the armchair analyst vermin at IGN realized they needed to churn out a clickbait article today.
What's more important than console sales is that Sony are on track to make more money with PS5 than they did on PS1-PS4 combined. That is why Zelnick is unconcerned, because he has a brain unlike IGN.
LordOcidax
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This FY 15 - 16 Million, Q4 is going to be really bad for everybody. Initial next year Forecast 15 Million, and is going to end up with 11-12 Million sales, the forecast is going to be revised down to 13 Million. Life time sales 105 - 110 Million.How many PS5s do you think Sony sells this fiscal year against their forecast of 18 million? How many do you think they'll forecast for next fiscal year? How many do you think they'll sell against that forecast? How many units do you think it'll sell lifetime?
Your answers to all of these questions will be extremely telling.
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Mr Moose
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The one ending March 2025?This FY 15 - 16 Million, Q4 is going to be really bad for everybody. Initial next year Forecast 15 Million, and is going to end up with 11-12 Million sales, the forecast is going to be revised down to 13 Million. Life time sales 105 - 110 Million.
HogIsland
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How many PS5s do you think Sony sells this fiscal year against their forecast of 18 million? How many do you think they'll forecast for next fiscal year? How many do you think they'll sell against that forecast? How many units do you think it'll sell lifetime?
Your answers to all of these questions will be extremely telling.
i'm not here making sales predictions. im reporting what sony says.
Mibu no ookami
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This FY 15 - 16 Million, Q4 is going to be really bad for everybody. Initial next year Forecast 15 Million, and is going to end up with 11-12 Million sales, the forecast is going to be revised down to 13 Million. Life time sales 105 - 110 Million.
Your math doesn't even math. Breakdown annual sales to reach 110 million with the math you're giving. At the end of the day you don't even believe yourself.
No, you're taking things out of context and stretching statements.
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LordOcidax
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Yes, this FY. I think Sony is going to revise the forecast down to 16 Million in the next financial report on February 13.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Which is just not really the topic of this thread.
MoreJRPG
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PS5 is down double digit percentage YoY and is now tracking behind PS4 worldwide. A double digit dip is the definition of plummeting. Xbox though, plummeting is being nice, that system is straight up cratering.
With that said, people thinking GTA6 is going to save the console market are in for a rude awakening. There will be a bump, sure, but no one is having record setting quarters. There's already over 65 million PS5s out there, the market has already begun to capture a lot to the casual user base five years into the gen. There isn't tens of millions of people still stuck on PS4 and XB1 waiting for GTA6 to buy the next console.
With that said, people thinking GTA6 is going to save the console market are in for a rude awakening. There will be a bump, sure, but no one is having record setting quarters. There's already over 65 million PS5s out there, the market has already begun to capture a lot to the casual user base five years into the gen. There isn't tens of millions of people still stuck on PS4 and XB1 waiting for GTA6 to buy the next console.
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