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Nevada Rancher and Right Wing Hero Cliven Bundy Says Some Things About 'The Negro'
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benjipwns
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Hey, feel free to praise one level of government finally getting around to enforcing its proper laws against another level of government. I certainly think it's great on them, but that doesn't excuse any level from violating rights through the law in the first place.
Gordon Shumway
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You>Them
Dude Abides
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Feel free to continue to pretend that the laws you complain about sprung up out of nowhere and were imposed on an unwilling populace. Libertopianism has never let reality get in the way of its claims. It's a lot like Marxism that way.
Ziltoidia 9
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Good news: Give Bundy 2 days and he won't be heard from again.
Bad news: Benghazi will be back in the news.
Bad news: Benghazi will be back in the news.
Northeastmonk
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We saw people as being people. You shouldn't judge a person for who they love nor should you judge them because they aren't exactly like you. I think people live in fear. A fear from something different. They believe that their fathers were right and they should honor them. I also believe hatred is a tool. A tool used when intelligence can't be used.
speculawyer
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I guess he realized that he would never win that seat back.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
It's easy because Cliven Bundy sounds like a "true patriot."
NYCmetsfan
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How did people start seeing people as people if in your opinion they're a product of their environment? How did this change? Divine intervention?
water_wendi
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Thanks to Cliven Bundy, we'll now forever associate states' rights with racism.
How tragic.
Cliven Bundy has had nothing to do with states rights. The Nevada Constitution was never in his corner.
Kind of annoyed that his naked racism is distracting us from the fact that he is a thief, a tax cheat, a hypocrite and a seditionist.
Literally fomenting armed resistance of a lawful government because he wants a free ride.
He's the perfect distillation of the tea party.
He was going to risk people's lives because he wants free cattle feed.
Literally fomenting armed resistance of a lawful government because he wants a free ride.
He's the perfect distillation of the tea party.
He was going to risk people's lives because he wants free cattle feed.
All this stuff about black people being slaves to the government makes me wonder how we're doing in Canada. Do conservatives (Canadian or otherwise) feel as though black people in Canada are being enslaved by social assistance? How are black people doing in regards to things like... rate of incarceration (I don't know if we track that by ethnicity), poverty rate, etc?
Northeastmonk
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I think a large part was that men and women came out from hiding in the closet and we realized that they were literally afraid of being who they were. I feel that people began to understand what gay really meant wasn't something bad, but that they should be given the same rights as other human beings. I think the LGBT community has shown how proud they are, which also emphasizes that we still have a large population who are against it. But I think the biggest part is states allowing gay marriage because it shows that we as a nation do not discriminate a person for their personal lives. I feel that men were raised thinking they should always be attracted to girls and that they should only act in a particular way. We've broken those pillars down by understanding that the person isn't just gay, but they are a person just like us.
I never had any gay friends growing up. The only gay person I knew of was ridiculed in high school for no reason. I feel that we mistreat people who are of a different sexual orientation. And it came from respecting and understanding that they are real people. I also think rallies and LBGT community events also raise awareness.
Is this "Welfare is the new Slavery" argument catching on with stupid people? First the Duck Dynasty guy, and now this genius, who's one of the (to use the words of the republican prophet R.Reagan) biggest welfare queens in America are all trying to propose this argument.
It's like the Ebola of stupid shit in how quickly it transfers and how quickly it kills any support from them.
It's like the Ebola of stupid shit in how quickly it transfers and how quickly it kills any support from them.
NYCmetsfan
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I notice how you only focused on LGBT. Did racists not interact with blacks? Your deference to peoples environment shouldn't allow change racists would raise racists in perpetuity
What do they say about Native Americans?
Northeastmonk
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You mean suppression because some racists were homosexuals themselves?
It's been a conservative talking point, though not as bluntly stated, for the past couple years.
Guys like Bundy and the Duck Dynasty posse are only distilling the things they've heard to the racist core.
The conservatives? Not much, they generally ignore them - and when they say stuff, not really very nice things. Mind you, this is just from the vague recesses of my mind, I couldn't tell you of any one significant incidence involving conservative politics and native americans.
NYCmetsfan
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Yep
Yup. It's like when the Onion joked about how Herman Cain's infidelity ruined his campaign, but not his lack of knowing China had nuclear weapons.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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But even their power is diminishing.
After a certain point in your life your brain should be developed enough to know common sense. After a while you just can't defend them. Live and let live but stay the hell out of my life, is how I'd see it.
As to thinking the same as Fungy? No; his generation did know better, because there were a lot of people who did not think as he did or does. Your "environment" can only influence you as much as you let it, and negatively if that is your life outlook.
Baraka in the White House
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The logic here is astounding.
Aw man, everyone is finding out what a hypocritical asshole I am. Better swerve and start talking about them coloreds instead!
Aw man, everyone is finding out what a hypocritical asshole I am. Better swerve and start talking about them coloreds instead!
speculawyer
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There are a bunch of weird arguments and conspiracy theories floating around the right wing bubble. Often they remain there. But every once in a while one breaks into the mainstream like this and they're shocked to learn that others don't agree.
Like that senate candidate who said that when rape happens the female body has "ways of shutting that thing down"
Northeastmonk
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Sex was never talked about. When civil rights were being fought for I imagine a huge correlation was happening, but it was never talked about. I think at the time segregation was keeping men and women from living their normal lives (working, owning property). LGBT segregation has probably always existed. I also think we had men and women who were afraid of being attracted to someone of a difference race, especially of the same sex. Love and sex were censored tremendously.
I've noticed how some Black Conservatives often talk about how Black people who vote for Democrats are living on plantations.
NYCmetsfan
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Why do you keep focusing on LGBT stuff? I'm talking about civil rights.
How did racial progress happen if people that grow up in racist environments end up being racist through no fault of their own?
yongeandcollege
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Given the number of people that say "I don't disagree" probably no one noticed.
Baraka in the White House
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Nah it's been there for awhile. It's the crux of what conservatives tell themselves to explain why they can't attract minority voters.
See, blacks only vote Democrat because they want stuff and the Democrat Party gives it to them in exchange for their loyalty at the polls, only the Democrats give them just enough welfare to keep them destitute and coming back for more. Meanwhile Republicans really just want to free blacks from the cycle of Democrat welfare that's keeping them down. They're selfless heroes, really.
benjipwns
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Huh? Who's pretending that?
Northeastmonk
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Martin Luther King Jr and Ghandi. Two spokespersons for ending segregation. Sit ins were becoming a way of presenting nonviolent protests. During this time people were violent towards African Americans. Rosa Parks did not move when asked to change seats. Strong men and women overcame the ramifications of segregation. It wasn't easy. I think when the movement came white people either changed or retaliated with violence.
Little Rock Central High School too. It definitely was a hardship.
Dude Abides
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People such as yourself who think all that was required for the end of segregation, etc. was for the mean old government to stop being mean.
benjipwns
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I think that?
Makers versus takers, welfare state, freeloaders, etc..
He's not very bright...to say the least.
Dude Abides
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Sure.
OrlanisWorks
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This feels like the most racist thing I've ever read, but I really can't be with having far greater than two weeks of internet experience.
What a douchecanoe.
What a douchecanoe.
water_wendi
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i was unaware of the strife that has overcome the Far Right because of Bundy. Alex Jones vs Glenn Beck vs Michael Savage vs Sean Hannity. This is glorious.
NYCmetsfan
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Why hasn't anybody what David Duke thinks of this?
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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David Duke's specialty is hating Jews. Black people and states rights are small fries compared to those goddamn zionists.
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