https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4gtGdH just for comparision, that rig is not only above ps5/xsx in everything possible, funnily enough its definitely above even vs what upcoming ps5pr0 gonna be, and we can get it for months at this price now.
Call me crazy but I’m not sold on this system outperforming the Pro. Also, I know it still works fine for the most part but I really wouldn’t choose DDR4 this late in the game. 3600MT/s is ancient at this point and you’ll wanna do another few years with this system. How good will it be in 4 years from now? This is when having modern components is far preferable to saving a few $$$.
Road to Ps5 said:The CUs contain a new specialized unit called the Intersection Engine which can calculate the intersection of rays with boxes and triangles.
To use the Intersection Engine first you build what is called an acceleration structure.
Its data in RAM that contains all of your geometry.
There's a specific set of formats you can use their variations on the same BVH concept. Then in your shader program you use a new instruction that asks the intersection engine to check array against the BVH.
While the Intersection Engine is processing the requested ray triangle or ray box intersections the shaders are free to do other work.
Guess we will see, and not long time from now
You can do better for a bit less. Microcenter does a bundle with a 7700x, mobo, 32GB DDR5 6000. All of that plus a 4070 Super (soon to release), case, PSU, SSD should be around $1250. PS5 Pro beating performance for probably twice the price.
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Thank you Jim. There will be lots of chances later on this year to look at the PlayStation 5 games.Today I want to talk a bit about our goals for the PlayStation 5 hardware and how they influenced the development of the console.playstationvr.hateblo.jp
Doesn't that support whatTranscribe - The Road to PS5 - Mark Cerny's a deep dive into the PlayStation 5 - - The Road to Next Gen Ludens
Thank you Jim. There will be lots of chances later on this year to look at the PlayStation 5 games.Today I want to talk a bit about our goals for the PlayStation 5 hardware and how they influenced the development of the console.
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said? He claimed that RDNA 2 RT hardware accelerates ray/box/triangle intersections. Just that it doesn't do BVH transverse, DXR flag feature, and triangle interpolation. 
I dont know what to tell you other than that sony is in the userbase business.
Personally i would love 999$ msrp ps5pr0, that instead of bit overclocked zen2 cpu and 7800xt, had as its baze zen4 cpu and 7900xtx, but unfortunately we got ps4pr0 to compare(and that very realistic and heartbreaking leak, rip).
LMAO... classic.
There have been leaks.
Might as well go the chiplet route then.PS5 Pro will use the same Zen2 as PS5 cuz they will strike two birds with one stone (porting Zen2 to N4P for PS5 slim will cost so they will also use it for PS5 Pro)
7So, there's an AMD patent that adds the Traversal Engine.
Most likely coming in RDNA4.
Also, AMD current RT is just as dedicated as Nvidia's.
Just that the Traversal Engine is currently missing.
AMD Dual Compute Unit (DCU) = Nvidia Stream Multiprocessor (SM)
Yeah you got it I should have specified I wasn’t saying the 6800 is absolutely not stronger than the 3080 it’s just the environment they are in causing this unusual performance discrepancyRTX 3080 10 GB can run out VRAM at 4K.
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At 1080p, RTX 3080 (cutdown GA102) 10 GB is slightly superior over RX 6800 XT. The weakness of many Ampere SKUs is the low VRAM.
For 4K, GA102 relative RTX 3090 with 24 GB VRAM maintains its performance lead over RX 6900 Xt and RX 6800 XT.
Techpowerup didn't test RTX 3080 12 GB VRAM and RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB VRAM SKUs.
VRAM usage for The Last of US Part 1 https://www.techspot.com/review/2656-the-last-of-us-gpu-benchmark/
At 1440p Ultra Quality, RTX 3080 10 GB has similar results with RX 6800 XT, but 1% lows RTX 3080 10 GB is inferior.
RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB and RX 6900 XT 16 GB have similar average FPS and 1% low results from 1080p to 4K.
Do you think the pro then could run a he 7900xtx settings there at 55-60fps?
Your weirdly confident in the leaked specs let alone there being no changes. Me personally I don’t buy the leaked specs (outside of the 7800xt raster performance)
The ps6 argument is also stupid cause none of the tech even in 2024 would be anyway comparable to a 2028 ps6 it’s like they are really underselling what a ps6 would be. More importantly even if they went extreme and made an all out pro that the ps6 only ends up being barely 2x more powerful than they are aware most people wouldn’t buy a pro especially if it’s super expensive so most people would still come in fresh with the ps6. What they do end up doing by not making the pro really powerful is turn off even a lot of hardcore fans from getting it (the people who the pro is primarily geared towards). I’d love a $700 pro that sports zen 5 full Rdna 4, and 20-24gb of memory a pro stronger than most pcs that could even get pc gamers on board but it seems they will cheap out once again
Hard to say, then again hard to dismiss too. At the end of the day, in the benchmark I got the data from, all the GPUs tested were running the exact same MAX setting. And that game was using around 13GB of VRAM, so every card with up to 16GB would have fared well. The PS5pro however, is likely to have only like 14GB available for both GPU and CPU. So we would likely see the PS5 drop some things down to a medium preset instead of maxing out everything.
Even at 500-600 most would still not buy a pro most will still go for the base model so why not go all out
For 1000 it would be zen 5
So, there's an AMD patent that adds the Traversal Engine.
Most likely coming in RDNA4.
Also, AMD current RT is just as dedicated as Nvidia's.
Just that the Traversal Engine is currently missing.
AMD Dual Compute Unit (DCU) = Nvidia Stream Multiprocessor (SM)
This is just not true.
I didn’t say 800$ I agree that’s too much I’m talking $700 (I think the absolute max you can justify for a premium console) maybe 650.
Form factor will be taken into consideration, they won’t sell mammoth towers.
I'm not to sure because Zen2 has two separate L3 Cache pools, while Zen3 and up has one L3 Cache pool.
Good thing I don’t buy the leaks thenI'm not to sure because Zen2 has two separate L3 Cache pools, while Zen3 and up has one L3 Cache pool.
I've only seen 3d Vcache with one L3 Cache pool.
Me neither, because we never got the PS5 specs from leaks. Not even the dev kit specs got leak.
Its a weird one, there officially is a PS5s bundled with a disc drive for $499. But then there are also PS5s + disc drive + game also for $499. I think they either keep the Spiderman 2 bundle going at that $499 price, or they stop the game bundles and then drop the prices as you have described.
Unless I am misremembering things, but I could have sworn we had leaks of the PS5, complete with code names of Ariel and there was a lot of strife over the leaks suggesting the PS5 still had only 36CU. That piece of info was making everyone think it was fake. The only thing we didn't know was what clock speeds it would be at, but even then we got some stuff showing testing at 2Ghz or something like that.
You must be thinking of the Github leak?
Yup, but that leak turned out to be accurate. It got the CUs, got that it would be clocked at over 2Ghz (which at the time was unheard of), it even got the amount of RAM and bandwidth.
Guess you weren't around when all the fake rumors where spreading like wild fire.
I am not saying there weren't fake rumors. Hell, I even made up my own Pastebin fake just for shits and giggles. But that happens all the time. There will be leaks, some real, most fake. Happens every single time.
And my point is, it didn't come from 4chan, reddit, pastebin, twitter, reset, ect.
This is exactly how I expect the PS5 Pro specs to leak.
No, that side note of the discussion was entirely about AMD RDNA2, with Nvidia hardware comparison a different context and part of the discussion .Doesn't that support what
Nvidia accelerates those in the RT core while RDNA2 requires that the shaders do it, hence AMD lagging behind Nvidia in RT performance, especially as RT or PT gets heavier use. Not exactly news, this was known since the first RDNA2 card was benchmarked.
AMD (and thus Sony) appear to be switching to something similar as Nvidia with the leaked news of dedicated RT cores.
I'm not even sure the PS6 will use 3nm.
Yeah forgot to add 3nm in my specs just didn’t know if it could fit in a 700 budget
