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[hinch7]

Don’t expect the 5080 to have much better availability than the 5090, but who knows.

However, I had a similar thought in that it might be worth downgrading my 4090 to a 5080. Once the 5090s sellout the 4090 will end up with insanely high demand. I could easily see them going for $2000.

They will still be the second fastest card on the market.

Plus, I could use multi frame frame gen to make up for the visual smoothness of lose.

But I’ll likely keep my 4090 as I expect 5080s to actually be going for $1500.

But let’s live in fantasy world and say I could acquire a 5080 for around $1100 and could sell my 4090 for around $2K I’d have to strongly consider that.

If you manage to get a mythical FE 5080 those will resell like crazy as well. All considering how well they are designed.

 

[FingerBang]

Don’t expect the 5080 to have much better availability than the 5090, but who knows.

However, I had a similar thought in that it might be worth downgrading my 4090 to a 5080. Once the 5090s sellout the 4090 will end up with insanely high demand. I could easily see them going for $2000.

They will still be the second fastest card on the market.

Plus, I could use multi frame frame gen to make up for the visual smoothness of lose.

But I’ll likely keep my 4090 as I expect 5080s to actually be going for $1500.

But let’s live in fantasy world and say I could acquire a 5080 for around $1100 and could sell my 4090 for around $2K I’d have to strongly consider that.

According to Overclockers UK, they had a few hundreds in stock, compared to the single digit 5090s.

I don't know how hungry scalpers with be, but I expect Nvidia to restock the 5080 fairly quickly, compared to the 5090 who will probably be hard to get for months (and probably almost never at MSRP)

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Would be very tempting if you could put a few hundred in your pocket and pick up a new card with a warranty even if it is a slight step down, a couple of in game settings tweaks would fix that

As long as my base framerate is around 70-90fps at minimum, I have no issue using 3-4X to make up the perceived difference. I mostly use a controller so the latency won’t bother me.

But keeping the 4090 is the smarter move and if DLSS4 adoption ends up taking off, I’m getting good uplift by switching to Performance instead of quality. Performance legit looked amazing in CP2077

 

[//DEVIL//]

The real winners are gonna be those who kept their 4090s.

The real losers will end up being those who sold their 4090s to try and get a 5090. It ain’t happening, when even MicroCenter might get less than 10 GPUs a store

Just because Nvidia was late to give the final bios doesn't mean stores won't start getting them after release.

Initial release is weak sure, but not the end of the world to wait couple of weeks or more to get a GPU lol

The problem is the card is super expensive for it's performance. If you don't get an FE and that is very slim, you are pretty much screwed. With premium price unless you want a shitty AIB card that is gonna be loud and super hot.

Nvidia this gen made the same mistake Intel made with the 1400 series cpu. Just increase the power consumption for better performance.

Most reviews do open bench tests and the temps I saw wasn't where I like them. I really don't like a GPU when temps is closer to the 80s and loud ( not saying the 5000 series is loud but the indication pointing out it's not gonna be quite card. )

The real question is, if someone doesn't care about MFG, is the performance difference worth it ? Is it worth to pay 2200 to 2400 for a GPU that is on average 30% more powerful than 4090 with more than needed ram for gaming ?

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Reviews just sold me to go for the 5090 instead of the 5080.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Just because Nvidia was late to give the final bios doesn't mean stores won't start getting them after release.

Initial release is weak sure, but not the end of the world to wait couple of weeks or more to get a GPU lol

The problem is the card is super expensive for it's performance. If you don't get an FE and that is very slim, you are pretty much screwed. With premium price unless you want a shitty AIB card that is gonna be loud and super hot.

Nvidia this gen made the same mistake Intel made with the 1400 series cpu. Just increase the power consumption for better performance.

Most reviews do open bench tests and the temps I saw wasn't where I like them. I really don't like a GPU when temps is closer to the 80s and loud ( not saying the 5000 series is loud but the indication pointing out it's not gonna be quite card. )

The real question is, if someone doesn't care about MFG, is the performance difference worth it ? Is it worth to pay 2200 to 2400 for a GPU that is on average 30% more powerful than 4090 with more than needed ram for gaming ?

It’s almost foolish to assume you’ll get a 5090 at all. I truly believe nvidia only produced a handful of these. Why do I think this? It’s common sense and it’s well known that AI is their bread and butter. They have little interest in selling these chips for $2000, when can use them for AI cards that they can sell for $20000+.
Jensens obligation is to his shareholders.

I suggest you keep that in mind.

Im fully expecting a 5090 to be a unicorn.
Could I be wrong and higher than expected 5090s be produced? Sure and we will see real soon.

 

[//DEVIL//]

It’s almost foolish to assume you’ll get a 5090 at all. I truly believe nvidia only produced a handful of these. Why do I think this? It’s common sense and it’s well known that AI is their bread and butter. They have little interest in selling these chips for $2000, when can use them for AI cards that they can sell for $20000+.
Jensens obligation is to his shareholders.

I suggest you keep that in mind.

Im fully expecting a 5090 to be a unicorn.
Could I be wrong and higher than expected 5090s be produced? Sure and we will see real soon.

Jensen has no obligation to anyone.

This card will be available and no one will buy it in 5 months from now when they no longer have shortages. It's a friggin 2.5k card after taxes minimum for anything that is not an FE. It's not for everyone.

Now ? It's the new hot thing every one wants it. But when hype goes down few months from now ? Yeah it will be everywhere.


Also. I am going to stick with the 4090 I have. It does it's job for all the games I want.

Recently got final fantasy 7 rebirth. 120 4k everything ultra.

I am good. By the time a decent game that will require 5090, the 6090 will be out in couple of years and next gen systems too.

Each game these days take 5 years to make. I am not seeing anything on the horizon that require more than 4080. Let alone 5090.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Jensen has no obligation to anyone.

This card will be available and no one will buy it in 5 months from now when they no longer have shortages. It's a friggin 2.5k card after taxes minimum for anything that is not an FE. It's not for everyone.

Now ? It's the new hot thing every one wants it. But when hype goes down few months from now ? Yeah it will be everywhere.


Also. I am going to stick with the 4090 I have. It does it's job for all the games I want.

Recently got final fantasy 7 rebirth. 120 4k everything ultra.

I am good. By the time a decent game that will require 5090, the 6090 will be out in couple of years and next gen systems too.

Each game these days take 5 years to make. I am not seeing anything on the horizon that require more than 4080. Let alone 5090.

Wrong. Jensen has EVERY obligation to his shareholders. It’s called Fiduciary responsibility is a legal obligation that requires a person or entity to act in the best interests of another party, rather than their own. In the case, of shareholders it’s to maximize profits.

 

[Ulysses 31]

It’s almost foolish to assume you’ll get a 5090 at all. I truly believe nvidia only produced a handful of these. Why do I think this? It’s common sense and it’s well known that AI is their bread and butter. They have little interest in selling these chips for $2000, when can use them for AI cards that they can sell for $20000+.
Jensens obligation is to his shareholders.

I suggest you keep that in mind.

Im fully expecting a 5090 to be a unicorn.
Could I be wrong and higher than expected 5090s be produced? Sure and we will see real soon.

Come on, dude. The 5090 ain't gonna be no unicorn till the 6000 series comes out. Maybe the first 6 months.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Wrong. Jensen has EVERY obligation to his shareholders. It’s called Fiduciary responsibility is a legal obligation that requires a person or entity to act in the best interests of another party, rather than their own. In the case, of shareholders it’s to maximize profits.

Stop smoking whatever you are taking. It's bad for brain.

Simply Jensen can announce a 5080 as their top tier card and be done with it. There is no need to announce a 5090 in the first place .

Fuck he can call the 5080 a 5090 and keep the high end chip for AI companies and be done with it too.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

According to Overclockers UK, they had a few hundreds in stock, compared to the single digit 5090s.

I don't know how hungry scalpers with be, but I expect Nvidia to restock the 5080 fairly quickly, compared to the 5090 who will probably be hard to get for months (and probably almost never at MSRP)

I have to wonder how effective scalpers actually will be. $2000 cards are unicorns. Most cards will be $2200 on the low end and $2700+ on the high end. Are there going to be enough people to pay over $3000 to make it worth scalping.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Stop smoking whatever you are taking. It's bad for brain.

Simply Jensen can announce a 5080 as their top tier card and be done with it. There is no need to announce a 5090 in the first place .

Fuck he can call the 5080 a 5090 and keep the high end chip for AI companies and be done with it too.

Dude, shut the fuck up with this tough talk especially when I dunked on your ignorant business ass. If you want to respond, add something meaningful.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Dude, shut the fuck up with this tough talk especially when I dunked on your ignorant business ass. If you want to respond, add something meaningful.

Did I hit a nerve ? You are cussing lol You are the one who needs to shut it. You dunked no one and you didn't even have a proper explanation. Just an ass in ur head talking.

You said Jensen has obligation to share holders . For what ? To release a 5090 to consumers ? 5090 is a number. It can be a 5070 performance . As a company they can do whatever they want. Why it's so hard for you to understand that ?

Shareholders has nothing to with this. Period.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Anyone find any reviews for the aib cards? Specifically the gigabyte gaming OC 5090 or even the 2200 MSI variant?

 

[OverHeat]

Soon!!!!

 

[M1chl]

Soon!!!!

For once, Nvidia edition will be mine, pre-ordered for 2.3k EUR

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[Celcius]

What are you guys going to do if you manage to get a 5090 but the coil whine is borderline unbearable? Just deal with it since they're so hard to get?

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Gonna be a lot of dissapointed people when they find out that they can only get the $2500+ models after camping out for days

https://videocardz.com/newz/people-already-camping-out-for-geforce-rtx-5090-ahead-of-launch

Do these people not have jobs?

Purchases are going to be confirmed to customers on a first-come-first-serve basis via a voucher system. Those waiting in line will not have a choice in the specific model of GPU they will be able to purchase.

Only one card can be purchased per customer, and though it has discouraged camping outside their stores, Micro Center still suggests that people arrive early to avoid disappointment.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

What are you guys going to do if you manage to get a 5090 but the coil whine is borderline unbearable? Just deal with it since they're so hard to get?

How is coild whine ubearable. I have a hard time believing anyone is going to care that much.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Gonna be a lot of dissapointed people when they find out that they can only get the $2500+ models after camping out for days

https://videocardz.com/newz/people-already-camping-out-for-geforce-rtx-5090-ahead-of-launch

Do these people not have jobs?

I wouldn't feel bad if I could still score an Astral or Waterforce 5090

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I wouldn't feel bad if I could still score an Astral or Waterforce 5090

If you've got that much money to burn, more power to you.

The ASUS Tuf model is usually my preferred GPU model.

 

[analog_future]

For once, Nvidia edition will be mine, pre-ordered for 2.3k EUR

Preordered? How?

 

[TransTrender]

We are fucked:

These seem incredibly reasonable, even shockingly inexpensive in some countries, with VAT included across the board.
Lol what are you complaining about?

These prices are significantly cheaper than the UK. We pay € 30 cents per kWh for electricity.

Electricity is basically free in Europe (!)

Yeah see now that's fucked.
That still seems less than California.

 

[Schmendrick]

These seem incredibly reasonable, even shockingly inexpensive in some countries,

Those numbers are nonsense or maybe some base prices before anything else is factored in...

The 12ct from that graphic turn into 30ish ct after all taxes etc are added in Germany f.e.( private consumers).

Electricity is basically free in Europe (!)

humbug!
The European average was 28.9ct / kWh in 2024 for private consumers and around 19 for businesses.

 

[Kilau]

What are you guys going to do if you manage to get a 5090 but the coil whine is borderline unbearable? Just deal with it since they're so hard to get?

The one upside to tinnitus, built in coil whine prevents me from hearing any of that from electronics.

 

[Bojji]

These seem incredibly reasonable, even shockingly inexpensive in some countries, with VAT included across the board.
Lol what are you complaining about?

Yeah see now that's fucked.
That still seems less than California.

Those numbers are nonsense or maybe some base prices before anything else is factored in...

The 12ct from that graphic turn into 30ish ct after all taxes etc are added in Germany f.e.( private consumers).
humbug!
The European average was 28.9ct / kWh in 2024 for private consumers and around 19 for businesses.

Yep, those prices are not what end users see for sure.

What I know is that I pay like 80% more than one year ago, this is combination of market prices and government shenanigans. Electricity is expensive as fuck vs. what it used to be just ~3 years ago or so.

 

[M1chl]

Preordered? How?

ln ocal distributor

 

[GHG]

Deary me.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

What are you guys going to do if you manage to get a 5090 but the coil whine is borderline unbearable? Just deal with it since they're so hard to get?

Sell it to Topher since it shouldn't be a problem with his hearing

 

[Topher]

Sell it to Topher since it shouldn't be a problem with his hearing

If I want "whine" all I gotta do is read your posts

 

[Kilau]

Sell it to Topher since it shouldn't be a problem with his hearing

Your build.

 

[Schmendrick]

Deary me.

After we saw nearly linear scaling with the 5090 this shouldn`t really suprise anyone anymore.
The 5xxx gen is literally more of a model refresh than a new gen as most of its new features are basically investments in what might, or might not pop up in game tech in a few years.
The best thing about this gen is the release of the DLSS4 Transformer model.

 

[FingerBang]

Deary me.

We knew this (more or less, around 15%; it will depend on games and resolution) and the 5070 and 5070ti performance. There is no surprise. At this point, it's just math. For the same price (or slightly cheaper), people get a bit more for each tier, but not enough to get to the previous top tier card (making sure they will never go that much down in price). It's an excellent time for people on a 3070 or 3080 to upgrade. If you have any 4000 series cards, there is not much to see unless you're willing to spend more.

But, hey, at least we all get DLSS4 and our cards will last a couple of generations more than we expected (the bar can't really be pushed much higher than it is now).

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

Deary me.

6080 it is then.

 

[nemiroff]

We are fucked:

It's good that with undervolt 4070ti super takes ~220W on average.

I live in the lightest green area

Several times last year we literally got paid to use electricty due to the price going negative.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

If I want "whine" all I gotta do is read your posts

meet me outside my tent at microcenter cunt

 

[Topher]

meet me outside my tent at microcenter cunt

Did you move it from the underpass?

 

[Schmendrick]

meet me outside my tent at microcenter cunt

Did you move it from the underpass?

 

[Kenpachii]

Starting to think of sitting out this gen or wait for refresh, not liking the low v-ram and barely any performance gains.

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

Starting to think of sitting out this gen or wait for refresh, not liking the low v-ram and barely any performance gains.

I'll be very upset if the 6080 is anything less than 20GB VRAM.

 

[Senua]

I'll be very upset if the 6080 is anything less than 20GB VRAM.

I await your upsetness

 

[G-DannY]

I'll be very upset if the 6080 is anything less than 20GB VRAM.

it will have MVG

multi vram generation 2x 3x 4x

12gb vram but compressed 2x 3x 4x to download more vram with AI

 

[Gubaldo]

Deary me.

 

[Salz01]

Still no sight of prebuilt desktops with 5 series?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Still no sight of prebuilt desktops with 5 series?

Best Buy has some up as coming soon

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

What are you guys going to do if you manage to get a 5090 but the coil whine is borderline unbearable? Just deal with it since they're so hard to get?

I got a 3090 FE back in the day and the coil whine was fucking horrendous. It got slightly better after breaking it in for a while.

I actually downgraded to a 3080 Ti when I was able to find one in stock.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Best Buy has some up as coming soon

Bought one of these recently with a RTX4070. Might have to go this route again to 'secure' a 5090.

 

[Salz01]

Christ….

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-9-9950x-64gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-4tb-pcie-4-0-ssd-black/6614162.p?skuId=6614162

 

[Thebonehead]

What are you guys going to do if you manage to get a 5090 but the coil whine is borderline unbearable? Just deal with it since they're so hard to get?

I'm going to bask in my middle-agedness. As I'm in my mid fifties I can't hear that shit anymore