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[analog_future]

In raster games, Nvidia has not been able to improve performance without increasing power consumption and cost, but perhaps upcoming games that use natural features will benefit from the new architecture.

But if we ignore the cost and power consumption, the RTX5090 is a fantastic card. If I won millions in the lottery I'd buy it without thinking too much about its value . This thing will last 10 years if not more. Not even the PS6Pro will be as fast.

When it comes to average performance, I like to look at the TechPowerUp benchmarks because they include data from a large number of games.

According to the data in this chart (average fps from 25 raster games at 4K) the RTX4090 offered 70% higher performance than the RTX3090 and 51% compared to the 3090ti. The RTX5090 FE offers 35% better performance compared to the RTX4090. MSI suprim 5090 is 39% faster. Of course, 35% on average means it can be lower, but some games already scale much higher than that.

Yeah, this puts the 5090 in an absolutely insane spot. No card in existence is even remotely in the same ballpark compared to it.

 

[StereoVsn]

In raster games, Nvidia has not been able to improve performance without increasing power consumption and cost, but perhaps upcoming games that use natural features will benefit from the new architecture.

But if we ignore the cost and power consumption, the RTX5090 is a fantastic card. If I won millions in the lottery I'd buy it without thinking too much about its value . This thing will last 10 years if not more becasue TSMC hit the node wall. IMO not even the PS6Pro will be as fast. In that perspective even the price $2000 isnt that bad (around $17 per month for 10 years).

When it comes to average performance, I like to look at the TechPowerUp benchmarks because they include data from a large number of games.

According to the data in this chart (average fps from 25 raster games at 4K) the RTX4090 offered 70% higher performance than the RTX3090 and 51% compared to the 3090ti. The RTX5090 FE offers 35% better performance compared to the RTX4090. MSI suprim 5090 is 39% faster. Of course, 35% on average means it can be lower, but some games already scale much higher than that.

6000 series is rumored to being a node shrink … if China doesn’t invade / blockade in next 2-3 years.

Note also that Trump said just yesterday that he is planning to slap tariffs on TSMC….

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Anyone upgrading from a 40xx to a 50xx, needs a sanity check, IMO.

From a 4090 to a 5090…agreed.
But if someone can pull off a 4060 to a 5090. That’s heaven on earth.

Hell on the wallet.

 

[simpatico]

Depending on your target resolution and fps every single one or none.
I´m sitting in front of a dual-UHD 240hz monitor soooooo.......

For sure. Graphicsl hobbyists will have plenty to enjoy in the 5080 and 5090. My analysis was just for people wanting to play games at native res with 60+ fps.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Was hoping for this to be an easy decision but what’s peoples thoughts on upgrading from a 3080 to a 5090? Also what would be the best processor to go with it?

If you can acquire a 5090, it would be a massive upgrade. You won’t acquire one so it doesn’t matter.

God help you if you are one of those dumbasses who sells their GPU before they buy a new one.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Is the 5080 a bad card? Fuck no, it still offers excellent performance. But it's still disappointing as a next-generation card if it's the same performance as a 4080, which was released in 2022, not last year. You may be thinking of the Super, which also had the same performance, it was just a price cut.


I hear you, and I still think it's probably the best card to buy at around $1000. I might get one since I need a second card, and I'm not buying a 5090 at that price. But I was expecting a 5080 to be at least faster than a 4090 and have more than 16GB of RAM. I might even get a discounted 4080 if I can find one.

I agree it’s a disappointment in terms of performance for a new generation I agree. But today if someone go to store and find that card for a 1000$ or whatever, that’s not a bad card as you said.

If you can acquire a 5090, it would be a massive upgrade. You won’t acquire one so it doesn’t matter.

God help you if you are one of those dumbasses who sells their GPU before they buy a new one.

i guess I am one of those guys lol. I have a spare 3080ti I am using and sold my 4090 for profit. When I get the chance to buy 5090 I’ll buy it. Tomorrow or 2 months from now, what is the difference ?

Made good profit on both 4090 cards I had too. Thanks to the idiots that are not in rush to buy a card like it’s the end of the world today.

 

[Black_Stride]

This thing wouldnt even make a good 4080Ti let alone a completely new generation.

 

[Ulysses 31]

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I agree it’s a disappointment in terms of performance for a new generation I agree. But today if someone go to store and find that card for a 1000$ or whatever, that’s not a bad card as you said.

i guess I am one of those guys lol. I have a spare 3080ti I am using and sold my 4090 for profit. When I get the chance to buy 5090 I’ll buy it. Tomorrow or 2 months from now, what is the difference ?

Made good profit on both 4090 cards I had too. Thanks to the idiots that are not in rush to buy a card like it’s the end of the world today.

The 4090 is about to go up in value.

If they end up going up for over $2000 I may consider selling mine and getting a 5080 eventhough I’d lose raw performance.

I’d use the 3X FG to alleviate the perceived difference. Since I game on controller the latency impact would be minimal and my early DLSS4 impressions from Cyberpunk are quite good. In fact I’ve stopped playing Indiana Jones while I wait for DLSS4 patch.

But keeping the 4090 at the moment is a much better choice for me.

 

[//DEVIL//]

The 4090 is about to go up in value.

If they end up going up for over $2000 I may consider selling mine and getting a 5080 eventhough I’d lose raw performance.

I’d use the 3X FG to alleviate the perceived difference. Since I game on controller the latency impact would be minimal and my early DLSS4 impressions from Cyberpunk are quite good. In fact I’ve stopped playing Indiana Jones while I wait for DLSS4 patch.

But keeping the 4090 at the moment is a much better choice for me.

Eh my case is different. both 4090s I got were about 1900$ CAD and both were sold for about 2300$. I am not really very interested in 5080 as I have a 4k 240 monitor. I am only really looking for 5090.

 

[simpatico]

My big regret at this point is not getting a 4090 at MSRP when I had the chance around release time. This situation is kind of ridiculous.

4090 to me is kind of the first version of a true ray tracing card. I think the only cards you can reasonably give that title to are 4090 and 5090. The best move might be just to live with temporal slop and be first in line for a 6090. By then you’re probably getting a truly mature Ray tracing card without any of the new tech inefficiencies. Maybe by then Nvidia will have reason to adjust their pricing. You won’t miss many titles.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

This thing wouldnt even make a good 4080Ti let alone a completely new generation.

Agreed. A 4080 Ti would need about 15% more performance and 20GB VRAM.

I can see nvidia putting out a 5080 Ti with 24GB RAM as basically a rebadged 4090.

 

[Schnauzer]

My big regret at this point is not getting a 4090 at MSRP when I had the chance around release time. This situation is kind of ridiculous.

I remember people thinking I was crazy when I bought my 4090 Gigabyte Gaming OC for $1529. I miss the Best Buy 10% Birthday Coupon. Now...crickets.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

4090 to me is kind of the first version of a true ray tracing card. I think the only cards you can reasonably give that title to are 4090 and 5090. The best move might be just to live with temporal slop and be first in line for a 6090. By then you’re probably getting a truly mature Ray tracing card without any of the new tech inefficiencies. Maybe by then Nvidia will have reason to adjust their pricing. You won’t miss many titles.

Nvidia has no incentive to adjust their prices while the bulk of their revenue is for AI accelerators. If they don’t sell them as GPUs they can repurpose them as AI cards and make literally 10X more. They produced just enough GPUs so that they can remain in the GPU market once the AI bubble collapses they will have gamers to fall back on.

Maybe Deepseek can accelerate this bubble collapse sooner rather than later. I do not know and if someone who understands this can comment please do so.

The sooner this AI bubble collapses the better.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I remember people thinking I was crazy when I bought my 4090 Gigabyte Gaming OC for $1529. I miss the Best Buy 10% Birthday Coupon. Now...crickets.

That was a beautiful GPU. I had it but exchanged it for an ASUS TUF, cuz I had heard that Gigabyte GPUs were having issues with cracks on the PCI Express connector. That appears to have never been a serious issue.

 

[Schnauzer]

That was a beautiful GPU. I had it but exchanged it for an ASUS TUF, cuz I had heard that Gigabyte GPUs were having issues with cracks on the PCI Express connector. That appears to have never been a serious issue.

I am not risking it. I use a GPU support bracket just incase.

 

[un1que]

If you can acquire a 5090, it would be a massive upgrade. You won’t acquire one so it doesn’t matter.

God help you if you are one of those dumbasses who sells their GPU before they buy a new one.

No I’ll have my system till I upgrade. But to be fair I’ll most likely buy a whole new rig which might increase my chances…. A little.

Apart form the 5090 and 9800x3d is there anything else I should aim for in particular?

 

[JohnnyFootball]

No I’ll have my system till I upgrade. But to be fair I’ll most likely buy a whole new rig which might increase my chances…. A little.

Apart form the 5090 and 9800x3d is there anything else I should aim for in particular?

A 1000W PSU. Seriously get at least a gold from a reputable brand like Seasonic. Do not skimp on a good PSU. can last many generations and it’s better to spend more. Avoid brands like Asus and Corsair. They’re good but overpriced.

 

[Ulysses 31]

A 1000W PSU. Seriously get at least a gold from a reputable brand like Seasonic. Do not skimp on a good PSU. can last many generations and it’s better to spend more. Avoid brands like Asus and Corsair. They’re good but overpriced.

But why go with the lowest recommended PSU specs though? For less than 100$ more he can get the Seasonic 1600W Platinum.

 

[simpatico]

Nvidia has no incentive to adjust their prices while the bulk of their revenue is for AI accelerators. If they don’t sell them as GPUs they can repurpose them as AI cards and make literally 10X more. They produced just enough GPUs so that they can remain in the GPU market once the AI bubble collapses they will have gamers to fall back on.

Maybe Deepseek can accelerate this bubble collapse sooner rather than later. I do not know and if someone who understands this can comment please do so.

The sooner this AI bubble collapses the better.

No one who isn’t under NDA truly “knows”. AI fans on the internet are just extremely proficient at regurgitating the marketing copy. Until it’s open source we’re just playing “trust me bro”

 

[JohnnyFootball]

But why go with the lowest recommended PSU specs though? For less than 100$ more he can get the Seasonic 1600W Platinum.

By all means!

 

[jshackles]

Some 5090 prebuilts (CyberpowerPC) up on Adorama

https://www.adorama.com/l/?searchinfo=rtx+desktop&sf=newestItems&st=de&sel=Graphics-System_NVIDIA-RTX-5090_NVIDIA-RTX-5080&nrtv_cid=04xnefk1htsyf

 

[Fess]

In raster games, Nvidia has not been able to improve performance without increasing power consumption and cost, but perhaps upcoming games that use natural features will benefit from the new architecture.

But if we ignore the cost and power consumption, the RTX5090 is a fantastic card. If I won millions in the lottery I'd buy it without thinking too much about its value . This thing will last 10 years if not more becasue TSMC hit the node wall. IMO not even the PS6Pro will be as fast. In that perspective even the price $2000 isnt that bad (around $17 per month for 10 years).

When it comes to average performance, I like to look at the TechPowerUp benchmarks because they include data from a large number of games.

According to the data in this chart (average fps from 25 raster games at 4K) the RTX4090 offered 70% higher performance than the RTX3090 and 51% compared to the 3090ti. The RTX5090 FE offers 35% better performance compared to the RTX4090. MSI suprim 5090 is 39% faster. Of course, 35% on average means it can be lower, but some games already scale much higher than that.

My three latest graphics cards has been the MSI Suprim X, they’ve been amazing.
If there would be a white version I would probably upgrade from 4080S but an all white build with one black part would annoy me. Only white 5090 I’ve seen is a Gigabyte Aorus but I’ve seen no reviews.

 

[Ulysses 31]

My three latest graphics cards has been the MSI Suprim X, they’ve been amazing.
If there would be a white version I would probably upgrade from 4080S but an all white build with one black part would annoy me. Only white 5090 I’ve seen is a Gigabyte Aorus but I’ve seen no reviews.

Maybe Asus will come with a white Astral like their white 4090 Strix!

 

[Fess]

Maybe Asus will come with a white Astral like their white 4090 Strix!

I wish they all came in white as a choice, it’s annoying to feel like I have to break my design idea to get what I want.

 

[Ulysses 31]

My three latest graphics cards has been the MSI Suprim X, they’ve been amazing.
If there would be a white version I would probably upgrade from 4080S but an all white build with one black part would annoy me. Only white 5090 I’ve seen is a Gigabyte Aorus but I’ve seen no reviews.

Palit 5090 Master comes in a white edition:

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Still nothing on more AIB models like Gigabyte or MSI?

 

[RayHell]

Anyone upgrading from a 40xx to a 50xx, needs a sanity check, IMO.

Upgrading ? You mean adding, I'm not getting rig of my 4090. That's 56GB of VRAM total for Ai.

 

[StereoVsn]

Still nothing on more AIB models like Gigabyte or MSI?

I think MSI is delayed by at least a week.

 

[OverHeat]

Tomorrow this one is mine

 

[Draugoth]

Tomorrow this one is mine

Dont worry, no one else is buying it

 

[Ulysses 31]

Tomorrow this one is mine

Mine too if I miss out on the FE.

 

[OverHeat]

Mine too if I miss out on the FE.

Founder look good but your missing performance….

 

[SlimySnake]

$4,000 on a graphics card. You could get your dick sucked by a margot robbie lookalike for that much.

 

[Celcius]

That asus astral is the one I would go for if I was going to upgrade. Good luck to y'all tomorrow.

 

[Draugoth]

$4,000 on a graphics card. You could get your dick sucked by a margot robbie lookalike for that much.

In Brazil you could get a Margo Robbie lookalike, a Dakota Johnson Lookalike and a dickgirl as a bonus.

 

[SlimySnake]

In Brazil you could get a Margo Robbie lookalike, a Dakota Johnson Lookalike and a dickgirl as a bonus.

 

[proandrad]

Founder look good but your missing performance….

But it looks cooler, therefore it must run cooler.

 

[Ulysses 31]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

 

[Chiggs]

For the first time in 4 Nvidia generations, I'm not buying their high-end card. Even with a decent trade-in from Newegg.

My FOMO isn't even registering, largely because the 5090 is a big, loud, overpriced heat machine that reminds me of the 2080TI in more ways than one.

Call me when GTA VI is released for the PC sometime in 2027.

 

[Sardaukarama]

I've found myself refreshing r/Microcenter for some hot queuing action all day

 

[cripterion]

Depending on the prices I'll go for a 5070 or 5070Ti from over a year of gaming on a UHD 770 and yeah I'll be gaming at 1440P / 165hz = current monitor.

Think the cards will just do

 

[analog_future]

Tomorrow this one is mine

Dont worry, no one else is buying it

Mine too if I miss out on the FE.

Founder look good but your missing performance….

There's probably something to the idea of going for a more expensive card the second these cards drop. Probably much more likely to get one because everyone is going to be going for the FE cards and the cards as close to MSRP as possible.

Downside of course is that you're spending a lot more money.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

79x 5080s but just 4x 5090's. This guy waited the whole night in the rain for nothing.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

More pics of the launch?

I opted not to go to Miami and will take my chances on the websites

 

[Draugoth]

Nvidia is creating a fake shortage to increase FOMO, they have much more cards ready to ship. Don't fall for it.

 

[SolidQ]

Spitballing Nvidia's RTX 5090 GPU die manufacturing costs — die could cost as little as $290 to make

Not too cheap.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[M1chl]

Tomorrow this one is mine

Why the fuck it cost so much, its like 1k USD more expensive of what I payed here in so called Eastern Europe. WTF?

 

[Ulysses 31]

Why the fuck it cost so much, its like 1k USD more expensive of what I payed here in so called Eastern Europe. WTF?

Those are Canadian dollars.

~2700 Euro for the Astral 5090 seems on the cheaper side if you can find one new for that price in Europe.