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[FunkMiller]

Sure, Germany had a hand in it, but one of the main reasons of what happened to Greece was also because the two richest groups in the country - naval shipyards and the Church - were tax exempt, which didn't help. But I am definitely no specialist in this matter.

The point is that Germany insisted that Greece suffer great economic damage given their high levels of borrowing. Greece made terrible mistakes, and Germany decided they should feel the economic penalties of that poor decision making and policies.

I would hope you can see the hypocrisy.

 

[strange headache]

The German government forced Greece into economic hardship to prop up the euro. It refuses to allow the same to happen to their economy to help Ukraine and punish Russia.

You can type a thousand words and a million insults and me, or anybody else on this forum, but those facts do not change.

Oh, and why couldn’t Germany make a similar fast recovery?

First you are still comparing apples to oranges, both are totally< different situations.
Second, Greece made a fast recovery, which quite evidently shows that their financial strategy was right.
Third, it wasn't Germany alone who was pushing for austerity policies.

As explained above, it is really not hard to understand why promptly cutting Germany and Europe for that matter, off from gas is really not at all similar to Greece needing to save money due to its incontrollable national debt. Your false equivalency is just laughably bad, sorry.

The point is that Germany insisted that Greece suffer great economic damage given their high levels of borrowing.

Greece did not suffer economic damage inflicted by Germany, the economic damage was already done. Hence the austerity policies imposed by the whole of EU, they prevented even more economic damage.

 

[FunkMiller]

First you are still comparing apples to oranges, both are totally< different situations.
Second, Greece made a fast recovery, which quite evidently shows that their financial strategy was right.
Third, it wasn't Germany alone who was pushing for austerity policies.

As explained above, it is really not hard to understand why promptly cutting Germany and Europe for that matter, off from gas is really not at all similar to Greece needing to save money due to its incontrollable national debt. Your false equivalency is just laughably bad, sorry.

It really isn’t. And I know this because cleverer and more educated people than me are making the point.

Many are also stating that while Germany would indeed suffer economic damage if they were to cut off gas supply from Russia, it is something the nation would come through. I would never advocate for a strategy that destroys Germany. It is not the case that the embargo would do so.

I’ve spent a fair amount of time reading about the situation from a variety of sources, including well respected academics and economists. I do not comment based purely on my own thoughts.

Now, who do I listen to? Those people? Or an increasingly angry anonymous person on NeoGaf, who has a hard time holding a conversation without resorting to insults?

For the avoidance of doubt, I’m kinda done putting up with your bullshit, champ.

 

[strange headache]

It really isn’t. And I know this because cleverer and more educated people than me are making the point.

Many are also stating that while Germany would indeed suffer economic damage if they were to cut off gas supply from Russia, it is something the nation would come through. I would never advocate for a strategy that destroys Germany. It is not the case that the embargo would do so.

I’ve spent a fair amount of time reading about the situation from a variety of sources, including well respected academics and economists. I do not comment based purely on my own thoughts.

Now, who do I listen to? Those people? Or an increasingly angry anonymous person on NeoGaf, who has a hard time holding a conversation without resorting to insults?

For the avoidance of doubt, I’m kinda done putting up with your bullshit, champ.

Oh so, "more cleverer and educated" people told you... well that makes it totally alright then! Despite the fact that you have provided no sources whatsoever, contrary to me who has relied on numerous articles now.
What makes you think you're the only one spending time "reading about the situation"? As if that would somehow absolve you from the highly one-sided reductivist stuff you're spouting here.

You seem to be one of those people who would pour water on burning oil because that's how you put out campfires.
Again, your comparison makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

The only thing that is insulting here are your ridiculous hot takes. They would be a good match for twitter.

 

[Wildebeest]

The debt to GDP ratio for Greece is very high. I don't know how anyone could argue they are in a good position to go into a global recession, which seems almost inevitable at this point. They are going into a crisis with not only no tools in their toolbox, but a massive millstone around their neck. But the UK is not in a particularly good position either, having a still high level of debt, although not nearly as bad, but having self sabotaged its own economic growth compare to the USA with just plain weird and nonsensical policies like austerity and *self censored*.

 

[winjer]

 

[WhatDidHeSay?]

Has anyone dropped the news coming out of Moscow that the Russians will be able to drop Satan on us (GB) by autumn? FFS.

 

[darth.shrimp]

Has anyone dropped the news coming out of Moscow that the Russians will be able to drop Satan on us (GB) by autumn? FFS.

"Drop Satan on us"? I thought you were supposed to be the satanists?

 

[WhatDidHeSay?]

"Drop Satan on us"? I thought you were supposed to be the satanists?

We can be anything you like! After all, our main man, Lolis Johnson wears a stab rest when visiting Liverpool and then a smart suit no protection when meeting up with Zelensky for a couple of beers...

 

[FunkMiller]

Has anyone dropped the news coming out of Moscow that the Russians will be able to drop Satan on us (GB) by autumn? FFS.

‘Putin drops Satan nuclear bomb on Birmingham. Does 15 million pounds worth of improvements’.

 

[funkygunther]

Has anyone dropped the news coming out of Moscow that the Russians will be able to drop Satan on us (GB) by autumn? FFS.

 

[M1chl]

Why does it look like it was filmed before 1989?

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Given the lack of news on last nights attack on the Russian oil facility I don't think it's going to effect oil flowing to Germany. Germany you may continue to fund the war.

 

[Tams]

We could shoot down any missile with pure snark alone.

 

[Meicyn]

Has anyone dropped the news coming out of Moscow that the Russians will be able to drop Satan on us (GB) by autumn? FFS.

Conventional munitions are a far more effective choice over sarin given the circumstances.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Again...

Russia warns United States against sending more arms to Ukraine​

reuters.com/world/...

 

[Wildebeest]

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Here's the list of what they apparently seized in a raid: One IED, eight Molotov cocktails, six Makarov pistols, a sawed-off shot gun, a grenade, over 1,000 rounds of ammo, drugs, forged Ukrainian passports, and "nationalist literature and paraphernalia"

 

[Lord Panda]

Has anyone dropped the news coming out of Moscow that the Russians will be able to drop Satan on us (GB) by autumn? FFS.

Giving your weapon a dubious name such as 'Satan' ...

 

[MisterFalcon]

Satan is the NATO code name, all missiles begin with S. Which gave us the Scud, Shipwreck, Styx, Sickle, Scarab, Stiletto and other scary words starting with S.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Here's the list of what they apparently seized in a raid: One IED, eight Molotov cocktails, six Makarov pistols, a sawed-off shot gun, a grenade, over 1,000 rounds of ammo, drugs, forged Ukrainian passports, and "nationalist literature and paraphernalia"

…what? Whenever I go on an assassination quest I make sure to bring my nationalist literature and paraphernalia

 

[Lord Panda]

Satan is the NATO code name, all missiles begin with S. Which gave us the Scud, Shipwreck, Styx, Sickle, Scarab, Stiletto and other scary words starting with S.

Damn. Oh well, one day I'll stick that landing with that gif somewhere.

 

[M1chl]

Giving your weapon a dubious name such as 'Satan' ...

These rocket is named Satan in west, as far as know Sarmat is what is called in Russia

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Again...

Russia warns United States against sending more arms to Ukraine​

reuters.com/world/...

I assume these warning are aimed to satiate Russians, and not actually scare anyone else. Because I'm pretty sure no one's scared of the Russian clown show being able to muster any semblance of a coherent retaliation. I mean, this is the bully who's been bloodied and battered by the nerd he was picking on, turning to the now-emboldened crowd of onlookers and muttering, "You don't want none of this." We're going to keep tossing brass knuckles and spiked bats to the nerd. Even if he doesn't win, he can leave the bully fucking hobbled.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

 

[M1chl]

 

[MidGenRefresh]

We'll be fine

 

[akimbo009]

A rare time I'm actually happy withy governments foreign policy - and good to see Ukraine feels they can trust us.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

What’s amazing about this is like…all that’s being asked is to not behave like animals. NATO is too close? Well guess what, if you don’t act like fucking animals, NATO won’t bother you. You don’t like sanctions or weapons going to Ukraine? Quit fucking invading and murdering and raping.

“Oh we can’t invade and rape and murder? Well then I guess there’s no point to this world anymore…”

Fucking psychopaths

 

[Gp1]

There’s nothing better than when Ukraine strike inside Russia. Got to love that the intel for the location of these depots would have 100% come from Google

It's nothing like you can hide a huge oil depot like that. And that depot is less to than 300km from the Russian frontier.

Given the lack of news on last nights attack on the Russian oil facility I don't think it's going to effect oil flowing to Germany. Germany you may continue to fund the war.

And like I said.

 

[Wildebeest]

Having the bomb dropped on us would be a small relief from the relentless despair and polite desperation you feel when you are British. It isn't really as much of a threat as they think.

 

[niilokin]

And like I said.

hurry up sweden

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Now that the election is over, France joined the party. Apparently they're sending artillery and anti tank weaponry.

 

[darth.shrimp]

Why does it look like it was filmed before 1989?

Give them a break, they probably filmed it with one of their Orlan-10 UAVs

 

[TwinB242]

Presumably its some of these

 

[M1chl]

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

More to come about this, but I have no idea what it this behind/meaning



Edit:

Explosions caused by a grenade launcher reported at the building of the Ministry of Public Safety in Tirasapol, the capitol of Transnistria.​

 

[Wildebeest]

It is well known that government inspections can be more effective than air strikes when it comes to starting fires in stockpiles.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Nice




Some pieces:

*Russian oligarchs are dying, some within 24 hours of each other. Why are they suddenly committing suicide? 4/


*Before the Bryansk attack, there were at least two posts suggesting something was about to happen. This is one talks about Ukrainian wrecks being transported to, among other places, Bryansk for ... 5/

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Nazis really love Sims 3.

 

[kuncol02]

Between this, brand new red t-shirt with swastika and 3 sims games instead of sim cards no one is that stupid. Someone inside is trying to blow that operation.

 

[M1chl]

Only Switch is missing

 

[Nikodemos]

I have a suspicion the whole "Signature Unclear" and "3 SIMs" = SIMS 3 is internal sabotage by the FSB. They got hit badly with purges, so their way of fighting back is malicious compliance.

 

[Kraz]

Between this, brand new red t-shirt with swastika and 3 sims games instead of sim cards no one is that stupid. Someone inside is trying to blow that operation.

Could be.

My first impression of the scene were conspirators made up of Soviet "boomers" thinking this is what it's suppose to look like mixed with those having varying degrees of familiarity with culture over the last 60 years handling the display.
That book the result of decades of corrupt micromanagement with severe penalties in the Russian Imperium. The operative couldn't even question what they were told. They did as told. Might not have even been on that site. Maybe a random group of people inscribed a book and thought it was a test. Someone tasked with planting grabbed a random book from the pile and didn't check because they're not suppose to look. The first time it was opened was on camera.

Didn't know those Sims games were suppose to be Sim cards. Fucking hilarious. It's possible that a mistake like that could be made as above if no one knows the full plan so can't question it or discuss when fear against doing so is instilled ruthlessly.

 

[Airbus Jr]

 

[Relique]

Nowhere have I read in any analysis that stopping Russian oil would destroy the German economy.

Damage, yes. Destroy, no.

Political distrust? Polls seem to suggest stopping Russian oil is actually quite popular with the German people…

From reading your last few posts, your arguments seem to hinge on the assumption that Germany cutting off Russian gas would stop or at least hinder their war effort in Ukraine. Are we certain this will be the case? Couldn't they divert the gas to countries that are buying, even if they have to discount it? I am sure it will damage Russia in the long term but I find it difficult to accept that their war effort in the short term is that reliant on Germany. I am all for ending the war but if Germany taking a huge economy hit isn't going to change much, then is it a good idea to do that just to take a moral stand? They do contribute the most to the EU budget. Hey maybe it will actually stop the war but I haven't seen compelling enough evidence.

Also, why isn't Ukraine doing something on their front? As far as I understand Ukraine still allows Gazprom to pump gas to the EU via Ukraine and they continue to collect transit fees, albeit the volume is down this year. While Ukraine continues to push EU to strongarm Russia into reducing their profit margins on the gas they aren't opposed to it altogether. Naftogas in Ukraine is state owned and the military on both sides seem to avoid damaging any gas transit infrastructure in Ukraine. When I see this it tells me that even Ukraine understands that it's not all black and white.

The puffy face could be prednisone or other steroids. The tremors and gait problems are reminiscent of post-TIA symptoms. There is also a chance it could be Parkinson's which would also explain the paranoia rumors but I would expect the symptoms to be more pronounced if that was the case.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

​

Another large fire in #Russia at the Silk Road shopping center in #Moscow.​

youtube.com/shorts...

 

[FunkMiller]

From reading your last few posts, your arguments seem to hinge on the assumption that Germany cutting off Russian gas would stop or at least hinder their war effort in Ukraine. Are we certain this will be the case? Couldn't they divert the gas to countries that are buying, even if they have to discount it? I am sure it will damage Russia in the long term but I find it difficult to accept that their war effort in the short term is that reliant on Germany. I am all for ending the war but if Germany taking a huge economy hit isn't going to change much, then is it a good idea to do that just to take a moral stand? They do contribute the most to the EU budget. Hey maybe it will actually stop the war but I haven't seen compelling enough evidence.

…if it isn’t worth doing, why are so many other countries doing it?

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Vicious Blame Game Erupts Among Putin’s Security Forces | CEPA​

cepa.org/viciou...