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The BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger Official Thread [360/PS3] - Be Ready for the Rebel

"Has anyone developed a consistent up close game with Nu yet? I feel like its possible to be really good using her without relying on swordswordsword/OH FUCK tactics."


She doesn't have a consistent up close game. Use her down A or down C to outpoke if necessary, instant block, or faultless defense and GTFO of town.
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
DY_nasty said:
Has anyone developed a consistent up close game with Nu yet? I feel like its possible to be really good using her without relying on swordswordsword/OH FUCK tactics.

The real problem is that her more effective close range attacks have a huge windup time, so it's very easy for opponents to get counter hits. It's very hard to put close-range pressure on somebody. Her jumping C attacks are nice but her ground attacks need to be used more as baiting techniques or defense.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
ZealousD said:
The real problem is that her more effective close range attacks have a huge windup time, so it's very easy for opponents to get counter hits. It's very hard to put close-range pressure on somebody. Her jumping C attacks are nice but her ground attacks need to be used more as baiting techniques or defense.
Yeah, the wind up is a beast...

Anyway to link up her special dash with the 50% Heat cancel?
 

kbear

Member
Anyone know some beast combos with Arakune? If you had to choose one or two of his best combos that were also not too insanely difficult to do, what are they?
 

Ferrio

Banned
kbear said:
Anyone know some beast combos with Arakune? If you had to choose one or two of his best combos that were also not too insanely difficult to do, what are they?

Just follow the flowchart

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FUCK BEES
 

kbear

Member
Ferrio said:
Just follow the flowchart

t886.gif


FUCK BEES
:lol

yo is there any way to pick which type of cloud you wanna send out? let's say at the beginning of the match i always wanna send out the one that follows the opponent, how do i do that or is it just random? sometimes i get that one, sometimes the one that's on me, or the one that's in the air, and so on
 
kbear said:
:lol

yo is there any way to pick which type of cloud you wanna send out? let's say at the beginning of the match i always wanna send out the one that follows the opponent, how do i do that or is it just random? sometimes i get that one, sometimes the one that's on me, or the one that's in the air, and so on
I have a feeling it might be like Zappa's ghosts in Guilty Gear—the type that is summoned may depend on the ones digit of the timer. Can anyone confirm?
 

kbear

Member
Heretic Kazuma said:
I have a feeling it might be like Zappa's ghosts in Guilty Gear—the type that is summoned may depend on the ones digit of the timer. Can anyone confirm?
I'm thinking it might have something to do with the angle you jump at and how high you jump and such...I'm not 100%, though. Gotta try it out in training mode
 

Mamesj

Banned
I tried out Japanese voices for Taokaka for a second...it's like a whole different game...one that's not as good at all. :lol It's just not satisfying if I know my opponent is not being annoyed enough to ragequit because of "SLASHY SLASHY"
 

kbear

Member
DY_nasty said:
I hate Hakumen, that fucking swing of his just demolishes my HP.
He does an insane amount of damage with all his attacks, including the basic ones.

luckily, i haven't really fought a beast of a Hakumen yet...i won't stand a chance once i do
 

Enk

makes good threads.
Ferrio said:
Just follow the flowchart

FUCK BEES

Yeah, Arakune has become my mosted hated character play against. I came across several rooms where people were being dominated by an Arakune who would curse, move to the far corner, toss bees, minions, ground tentacles, and clouds over and over to the point where there's some much random crap flying around the screen to break through without getting hit and juggled by something.
 

Shearie

Member
Enk said:
Yeah, Arakune has become my mosted hated character play against. I came across several rooms where people were being dominated by an Arakune who would curse, move to the far corner, toss bees, minions, ground tentacles, and clouds over and over to the point where there's some much random crap flying around the screen to break through without getting hit and juggled by something

So is Arakune a horribly imbalanced charater? Haven't played the game yet since I'm picking it up tomorrow but if there are seriously cheap charaters maybe it's not such a good idea to get it after all.
 

Halvie

Banned
Enk said:
Yeah, Arakune has become my mosted hated character play against. I came across several rooms where people were being dominated by an Arakune who would curse, move to the far corner, toss bees, minions, ground tentacles, and clouds over and over to the point where there's some much random crap flying around the screen to break through without getting hit and juggled by something.

pick v-13 problem solved
 

kbear

Member
Shearie said:
So is Arakune a horribly imbalanced charater? Haven't played the game yet since I'm picking it up tomorrow but if there are seriously cheap charaters maybe it's not such a good idea to get it after all.
considering i was doing terrible with every char...10 wins, 50 losses, and then started using Arakune for the next 20-30 matches and got a 1:1 ratio, i think he's just a beast or maybe just newbie-friendly? the game seems to be pretty balanced despite lots of people picking ragna/noel/jin.

tager sucks tho...he needs to be beefed up somehow, idk how.

Halvie said:
pick v-13 problem solved
nah, arakune has some good moves vs. v-13...well the ability to close in on her really fast thanks to his ground teleporting and shark move.
 

Mamesj

Banned
Shearie said:
So is Arakune a horribly imbalanced charater? Haven't played the game yet since I'm picking it up tomorrow but if there are seriously cheap charaters maybe it's not such a good idea to get it after all.


not really. there are a bunch of tactics in this game that seem kind of impenetrable, but really just need to be dealt with in a specific way. I guess it fools noobs (myself included, I often lose to Arakune for the same reasons as everyone else.)
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
As far as I can tell, so far signs point to Nu being the horribly overpowered character.

And Tager isnt that bad.
 

Volcynika

Member
kbear said:
considering i was doing terrible with every char...10 wins, 50 losses, and then started using Arakune for the next 20-30 matches and got a 1:1 ratio, i think he's just a beast or maybe just newbie-friendly? the game seems to be pretty balanced despite lots of people picking ragna/noel/jin.

tager sucks tho...he needs to be beefed up somehow, idk how.

Tagers can smash me to pieces though :(
 

Mamesj

Banned
Tager and Hakumen fights last forever. I chip away with Taokaka for 10 minutes, they hit me twice and take off just as much damage. Its fun though.
 

kbear

Member
I want to fight a really good tager that just annihilates me. I'd be really impressed... this is of course on ranked match where you can't use the right stick to do the 360 piledriver with ease
 

Volcynika

Member
kbear said:
I want to fight a really good tager that just annihilates me. I'd be really impressed... this is of course on ranked match where you can't use the right stick to do the 360 piledriver with ease

I know it's lol AI, but fighting an AI Tager on Hell difficulty is just brutal. He will just pull some crazy stuff off and you cant touch him.
 

Mamesj

Banned
I haven't fought any that practice good defense. They eat everything, do a couple pile drivers, land a DD, and its over!
 

Shearie

Member
I don't mind if it's an uphill battle with certain character matchups as long as there is someway for any character to beat any other character no matter what they do.
 

kbear

Member
Volcynika said:
I know it's lol AI, but fighting an AI Tager on Hell difficulty is just brutal. He will just pull some crazy stuff off and you cant touch him.
I mean really..how are you supposed to pull off that insane 720 super in the heat of a battle, especially with the game being pretty fast-paced? I can barely pull it off in training mode with the dummy...takes several tries. Anyone who masters Tager has won this game
 
kbear said:
I want to fight a really good tager that just annihilates me. I'd be really impressed... this is of course on ranked match where you can't use the right stick to do the 360 piledriver with ease
Play koogy from Dustloop. He plays Arakune/Tager and I play him all the time. I'm guessing Oichi could be good too, but I've never played him.

EDIT: Nevermind cause I think you're PSN! :lol
 

Volcynika

Member
kbear said:
I mean really..how are you supposed to pull off that insane 720 super in the heat of a battle, especially with the game being pretty fast-paced? I can barely pull it off in training mode with the dummy...takes several tries. Anyone who masters Tager has won this game

Some people can master that sort of calmness during battles. I know I'm not even close, I start to get a little attack spammy when I'm close to losing :lol

So many others can vouch for that!

(I really will concentrate on learning a combo that includes Noel's A / B someday...)
 

kbear

Member
Volcynika said:
Some people can master that sort of calmness during battles. I know I'm not even close, I start to get a little attack spammy when I'm close to losing :lol

So many others can vouch for that!

(I really will concentrate on learning a combo that includes Noel's A / B someday...)
you got the ps3 version (checked ur profile)? imma add you tomorrow if u dont mind
 

Volcynika

Member
kbear said:
you got the ps3 version (checked ur profile)? imma add you tomorrow if u dont mind

Go ahead. Just keep in mind that this week will be hell at work (long story) and I may not be on much unless it's a bit of late night ( between 9 - 11 pm CST), that is, if I'm not tired enough from being at work all day! :(
 

Halvie

Banned
kbear said:
nah, arakune has some good moves vs. v-13...well the ability to close in on her really fast thanks to his ground teleporting and shark move.


that match is 6.5 -3.5 in her favor. If they are beating the v-13 it is a garbage v-13 player.
 

Ferrio

Banned
kbear said:
you got the ps3 version (checked ur profile)? imma add you tomorrow if u dont mind

Add me too, PSN: Ferrio

Working more on my litchi. Lots of her combos depend on where in the stage you are, so hard to keep track of which I need to use... still learning.

Stuff I was just working on.

Corner Combo

5B, 5C (2 hits), 41236D (C), 236A, 5B, JB, JC, double jump forward, D, falling JC, 6C, 623D -> usual shenanigans

Also I was stupid not to realize you can combo from her overhead

While they're close

6A, 236A, 5B, 623D -> usual shenigans

While they're far

6A, 236A, 236C, 236B
 

Jube3

Member
Good games tonight zealous bistro, toku, snapshot, grifter, and everyone else. Was a lot of people. Was a good 5 hours of playing.

Oh and sorry for kicking you snapshot I hit select to backout of the room and it kicked you.
 

Oichi

I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce!
Mamesj said:
not really. there are a bunch of tactics in this game that seem kind of impenetrable, but really just need to be dealt with in a specific way. I guess it fools noobs (myself included, I often lose to Arakune for the same reasons as everyone else.)

No, Arakune is a fucking horribly imbalanced character. HORRIBLY IMBALANCED. I actually hung out with HeartNana last night and we were talking about that, and he agrees, that character is flat out broken, and is going to get nerfed HARD when they release a revision. Either that or everyone is going to get souped up so much that Arakune's brokenness will mean nothing.
 
Meh losing interest fast. I guess its because im playing randoms and its a bitch to join other peoples games.

Can't seem to find a gaffer to play with and when I message them on XBL I get no response =\
 

Shearie

Member
No, Arakune is a fucking horribly imbalanced character. HORRIBLY IMBALANCED. I actually hung out with HeartNana last night and we were talking about that, and he agrees, that character is flat out broken, and is going to get nerfed HARD when they release a revision. Either that or everyone is going to get souped up so much that Arakune's brokenness will mean nothing.

Did the devs ever say they are going to patch in balancing tweaks for the console versions?
 

ukiraros

Member
I can't wait to get my 200 rank game matches and be done with this piece of shit. Seeing how these players do their specials and DD with just a fick of the R3 button makes me sick. A Tager player got me with a 720 + C while he crouching was pathetic.

Why the hell did Arksys do this boggles my mind.

I'll be playing Player Match exclusively with the specials off.
 

kbear

Member
ukiraros said:
I can't wait to get my 200 rank game matches and be done with this piece of shit. Seeing how these players do their specials and DD with just a fick of the R3 button makes me sick. A Tager player got me with a 720 + C while he crouching was pathetic.

Why the hell did Arksys do this boggles my mind.

I'll be playing Player Match exclusively with the specials off.
just play ranked match dude
right stick specials always off in ranked
 

Ferrio

Banned
Shearie said:
Did the devs ever say they are going to patch in balancing tweaks for the console versions?

Doubt there will be patches, I'm guessing revisions.

TurtleSnatcher said:
Meh losing interest fast. I guess its because im playing randoms and its a bitch to join other peoples games.

Can't seem to find a gaffer to play with and when I message them on XBL I get no response =\


Come to the PS3 side of things.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
ukiraros said:
I can't wait to get my 200 rank game matches and be done with this piece of shit. Seeing how these players do their specials and DD with just a fick of the R3 button makes me sick. A Tager player got me with a 720 + C while he crouching was pathetic.

Why the hell did Arksys do this boggles my mind.

I'll be playing Player Match exclusively with the specials off.

?

Ranked games don't allow the right stick specials.
 

Jube3

Member
TurtleSnatcher said:
Meh losing interest fast. I guess its because im playing randoms and its a bitch to join other peoples games.

Can't seem to find a gaffer to play with and when I message them on XBL I get no response =\

I added ya turtle, i usually start hosting around 8 est so I will hit you up when I see ya.
 

MarkMan

loves Arcade Sticks
At the BlazBlue/Guilty Gear panel at AX, Mori and Ishiwatari commented on character balance....

They wanna make the game fun instead of boring (like AC Plus) lol.

Broke is fun.

:)

Go for broke.
 
TurtleSnatcher said:
Meh losing interest fast. I guess its because im playing randoms and its a bitch to join other peoples games.

Can't seem to find a gaffer to play with and when I message them on XBL I get no response =\

if you have a ps3 get it!!!

we always got people in the GAFCHAT BlazBlue Chatroom on PSN

and we always got a room going.

............................

Ferrio's Litchi still gives me nightmares, dude's a beast!!! lol
 

Tokubetsu

Member
TurtleSnatcher said:
Meh losing interest fast. I guess its because im playing randoms and its a bitch to join other peoples games.

Can't seem to find a gaffer to play with and when I message them on XBL I get no response =\

Me, Jube, Lyte etc are playing like 6 hours of games every day. I've never once got a message and im on the metatag.
 

SoulFist

Member
My copy should finally arrive tomorrow! I'm so pumped for this game. I mained Sol in GGXX so I think I'll jump right in with Ragna.
 
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