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The Nintendo Switch 2 | Officially Announced (Switch 2 Direct Scheduled for April 2nd)

EruditeHobo

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That's the most meh console reveal of all time. Literally just "here's our new Switch which is exactly like the old Switch but a tiny bit different".

And if that game is MK9, it also looks exactly like MK8.

Incredibly underwhelming, honestly.

They'd better have a killer Mario game coming soon, IMO.

Doesn't matter in the grand scheme though... will sell like hotcakes.
 
A part of me wonders if they will want to keep him on board "essentially" retired but for the optics of having the Legend there.

Like a you were too successful to let go home type deal. You can, but there will be ninjas there to carry you back for a press release.

They're gonna freeze him in carbonite like Walt fucking Disney and let kids gawk at him on a Super Nintendo World ride.
 

Robb

Gold Member
So, assuming that the BotW remaster is real, would it be expected to look like the 2015 teaser now?


Or would that be too much of an overhaul? I assume they must’ve put ant least some effort into it if they’re bothering with a remaster when the system is B/C.
 
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MAX PAYMENT

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That's what I was wondering. Graphically it looks almost identical to MK8DX, but that looks like a new track?

Is this Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Deluxe? lol.

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It's Mario Kart 8 Double D's.
 

Hardensoul

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So, assuming that the BotW remaster is real, would it be expected to look like the 2015 teaser now?


Or would that be too much of an overhaul? I assume they must’ve put ant least some effort into it if they’re bothering with a remaster when the system is B/C.

I don’t think the remaster is real. Nintendo is more likely to do a definitive edition. How much sales would they be expecting for a remaster, when BotW is still selling and also BC! 🤷‍♂️

With that type of upgrade graphics it’s more likely to be in new Zelda.
 

Robb

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I don’t think the remaster is real. Nintendo is more likely to do a definitive edition. How much sales would they be expecting for a remaster, when BotW is still selling and also BC! 🤷‍♂️

With that type of upgrade graphics it’s more likely to be in new Zelda.
I’d be super surprised if it doesn’t happen at this point given the codename leaks, that have all been spot on thus far.

Wind Waker HD got quite an overhaul so it’s not impossible.
 
I see all these arguments everywhere on the price.

I DO NOT think Nintendo knows the price yet. I think they are waiting to see on tariffs, I am sure they have a target price, but are unsure of global changes taking place.
 
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engstra

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Finally caught up on the thread.

Well I had kinda hoped for the announcement of the new console to have been via a Direct showing off the system and games, so of course this was a bit dissappointing.

It seems people are happy that it's a continuation of the Switch but I've always loved that Nintendo always does something unexpected.

Either way as long as they announce a new 3D Mario I'll be there to buy it. Hope they have more 3D platformers such as Donkey Kong in the works. An announcement of expanding online to include Gamecube games would also be cool. Been playing Paper Mario 64 using the Switch and been having an amazing time.
 
I got an email to sign up for the hands-on experience of it. I was considering it but yea doesn't feel like something I have to go and see.
I signed up for the one in Paris. With my luck I won't get selected, but I doubt I'll have better stuff to do on a Sunday morning anyway.
 

tr1p1ex

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I don’t think the remaster is real. Nintendo is more likely to do a definitive edition. How much sales would they be expecting for a remaster, when BotW is still selling and also BC! 🤷‍♂️

With that type of upgrade graphics it’s more likely to be in new Zelda.
Yeah exactly. I don't see the big selling point.

Funny too considering how many complain TotK was too much the same game as BotW.
 

Emedan

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This time though, it comes from a retailer named Newegg. On their site, you can find a listing for an eShop gift card. The gift card mentions the new Mario Kart game that Nintendo announced, but for some reason, they also mentioned a “3D Mario” and a “Legend of Zelda remake/remaster”.

Sounds promising. Hope the Zelda one is Windwaker
 
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gamer82

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i wouldn't mind ocarina and majora's mask collection , i have not played them only recently picked up a 2ds to try them out but wouldn't mind seeing them on a big screen with some enhancements.

i hope they bring over nds and 3ds games to the online service saves them needing full on remakes and they would work i mean emulators can play 3ds and nds games shouldnt be an issue with the switch espically in docked mode if you uses one of the joycon and a stylus.
 
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Kataploom

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Sounds promising. Hope the Zelda one is Windwaker
No official remaster could hold a candle to what you can do nowadays with an emulator and custom textures and shaders. If they know where the money is at, they'll make a full remake of OoT on a completely different engine, with larger fields, revamped combat, re-imagined dungeons, etc. (hey, a man can dream, can't he?)
 

Robb

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I wouldn’t expect that to be anything but the rumored BotW Remaster. Get ready for disappointment.
 

Trilobit

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i wouldn't mind ocarina and majora's mask collection , i have not played them only recently picked up a 2ds to try them out but wouldn't mind seeing them on a big screen with some enhancements.

i hope they bring over nds and 3ds games to the online service saves them needing full on remakes and they would work i mean emulators can play 3ds and nds games shouldnt be an issue with the switch espically in docked mode if you uses one of the joycon and a stylus.

Imagine that and with A Link to the Past remake similar to Link's Awakening. It'd be a collection that'd make me consider purchasing Switch 2 day one. :messenger_open_mouth:
 

Danjin44

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My only worry is its going to be pain in the ass to pre-order before getting sold out.
 
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Caffeine

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the initial announcement was pretty luke warm for me. way different vibe from og switch which was exciting ? I was basically ready with the cash for one sitting here and now im like well its something. Will have to see if the april 2nd reveal actually garners interest from me, because if its just it plays all these games that I can play elsewhere then its meh.
 
Sight of relief as a physical collector for the Switch

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Serious question since I haven't had a Nintendo system in ages :
How do they treat BC ? Meaning, will Switch 1 games run better (framerate/resolution) on the 2 or will we have to buy the switch 2 "hd remaster" version of a game?

For example, will BOTW now run at 60fps or just at a-not-shit, stable 30fps ?

Edit : when will we have more news on the hardware and upcoming games?
 
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Serious question since I haven't had a Nintendo system in ages :
How do they treat BC ? Meaning, will Switch 1 games run better (framerate/resolution) on the 2 or will we have to buy the switch 2 "hd remaster" version of a game?

No one knows outside of it being hardware compatible, so the carts will just natively work. As far as benefits, we'll see soon! April 2nd we should find out this information I'd imagine.
 

Warspite

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Serious question since I haven't had a Nintendo system in ages :
How do they treat BC ? Meaning, will Switch 1 games run better (framerate/resolution) on the 2 or will we have to buy the switch 2 "hd remaster" version of a game?

For example, will BOTW now run at 60fps or just at a-not-shit, stable 30fps ?

Edit : when will we have more news on the hardware and upcoming games?

No one really knows, Nintendo are a bit strange with their BC in the past, game boy games on the DS had black bars around them, you needed a gamecube memory card and a gamecube controller for the Wii BC instead of using the wii hardware and the Wii U needed a Wii mode, so its been all over the place. Its not all odd I remember the 3DS being good for DS games.

Will they upgrades, or will it be a half hearted attempt at BC? we will just need to wait and see.
 

Comandr

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Serious question since I haven't had a Nintendo system in ages :
How do they treat BC ? Meaning, will Switch 1 games run better (framerate/resolution) on the 2 or will we have to buy the switch 2 "hd remaster" version of a game?

For example, will BOTW now run at 60fps or just at a-not-shit, stable 30fps ?

Edit : when will we have more news on the hardware and upcoming games?
It is overwhelmingly likely that Switch 2 will just downclock to play Switch 1 games at the exact same performance that they originally played at. Don't expect a ... PS4 Pro style Boost mode here. Not when there's remasters to sell.
 

Fake

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It is overwhelmingly likely that Switch 2 will just downclock to play Switch 1 games at the exact same performance that they originally played at. Don't expect a ... PS4 Pro style Boost mode here. Not when there's remasters to sell.

I don't think a remaster is needed to be honest.

Old games that barely run at 30 will be locked to 30, games that have unlocked frame rate will try to reach 60 more offen.

I sure people out of curiosity will go back to BOTW to see what places can be run at locked 30.
 

Comandr

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I don't think a remaster is needed to be honest.

Old games that barely run at 30 will be locked to 30, games that have unlocked frame rate will try to reach 60 more offen.

I sure people out of curiosity will go back to BOTW to see what places can be run at locked 30.
You may not think a remaster is necessary, and that's valid. However, Nintendo isn't going to miss a chance to sell 4K* remasters of their biggest games, and fans are going to be chomping at the bit to buy them. It is of absolutely zero benefit to Nintendo to run old games at higher clocks. In fact, its actively a detriment towards them because people like you would think that if it runs better, a remaster isn't necessary. See, good business sense is creating a problem and then selling the solution.
 
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yogaflame

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Will it be capable of running MHwild decently? It's a new war environment in handheld since this will compete against rumored xbox handheld, and fast growing steam deck.
 

blacktout

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You may not think a remaster is necessary, and that's valid. However, Nintendo isn't going to miss a chance to sell 4K* remasters of their biggest games, and fans are going to be chomping at the bit to buy them. It is of absolutely zero benefit to Nintendo to run old games at higher clocks. In fact, its actively a detriment towards them because people like you would think that if it runs better, a remaster isn't necessary. See, good business sense is creating a problem and then selling the solution.

The problem here is that if Nintendo only offers the option to buy a 4K remaster or to play the game with exactly the same performance as it had on the OG Switch, a lot of people who already own the game are going to select the latter option.

This is why Sony offers a choice between buying their remasters at full price, or paying ten bucks for an upgrade patch if you already own the PS4 version. This isn't charity. It's smart business, because it leaves the least money on the table.

I suspect Nintendo will probably do the same thing. There will be $70 Switch 2 versions of select Switch games but people who already own the Switch 1 versions will be able to pay $10 and download a patch to upgrade them.
 

Comandr

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Will it be capable of running MHwild decently? It's a new war environment in handheld since this will compete against rumored xbox handheld, and fast growing steam deck.
I would go ahead and give up any notion of Wilds on Switch 2. People are screaming and shouting from the tops of mountains that performance is bad on both a 10TF console and very powerful computers. The Switch 2 will only have, at best, a 20ish watt hour battery, and a processor from somewhere around 2021. This would put it at half the size of the LCD steam deck battery, which is already notoriously short-lived during demanding games.

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Even with my personal, extremely aggressive tweaks, all settings low, many completely off, with a tweaked .ini, even going as far as to mod the game to alleviate several other overhead issues like aggressive anti-tamper and wind simulation, Wilds runs around 14-22fps on average, dipping into the 6–10 range in combat on steam deck. With the game in FSR3 Balanced upscaling to 720, we have an internal resolution of 425p. That's lower than Standard Definition in the year 2025. You’ll notice it’s also pulling 25.9 watts to achieve this. But the TPD of the SD is only 15, how could that be? While the GPU and CPU are only allowed to guzzle a collective 15 watts max, the rest of the system still has operations that require power, the OS itself, etc.

So if we assume switch 2 has a 20 watt hour battery, then at this power draw, the game would run for 45 minutes before the system shut down. That's obviously unacceptable. Nintendo would have to cut this wattage by more than half, which leaves only about 8 watts for the CPU/GPU, and 2 watts for the total system power draw, coming out at 10 watts would give us exactly two hours. Still not great for a "portable" system. In order to get 3 hours, you'd have to starve the CPU/GPU with 5.5 watts, and leave 1.5 for the OS. Yeesh. How do you think that's going to run a game that brings the 200 watt PS5 to its knees?

So in conclusion, everyone should give up on Wilds for Switch 2. This game was not designed for that console. Monster Hunter Portable 6th, developed specifically by the MH Portable team, to be a portable game, on a portable console, will make its debut on Switch 2, just as Portable 5th did on the previous Switch. I believe this game has been in development for some time and Capcom has been in close communication with Nintendo to tailor this game specifically to the hardware of their new console.
 
Serious question since I haven't had a Nintendo system in ages :
How do they treat BC ? Meaning, will Switch 1 games run better (framerate/resolution) on the 2 or will we have to buy the switch 2 "hd remaster" version of a game?

For example, will BOTW now run at 60fps or just at a-not-shit, stable 30fps ?

Edit : when will we have more news on the hardware and upcoming games?
Given Nintendo's history of BC I actually would expect the games to run identically on the Switch and Switch 2 with no improvements whatsoever. But we'll see, I hope I'm wrong. The Super Gameboy did bring some cool improvements to original Gameboy games after all.. 😄
 
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