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Wkd BO 04•14-16•17 - Can't fight fate, Baby: F8 leaves WW B.O. opening record in dust

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kswiston

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Box office crow-serving is only fun when people try to move goal posts or completely ignore all data to avoid admitting they were wrong way past the point where it was obvious that they were wrong.

Everyone messes up some of their pre-opening day predictions. How much crow is there in that when you have Variety and Deadline being off by upwards of 100% two days before release at least a few times a year?
 
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Macho Madness

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I've never even seen Avatar so I have the best take and it's that it looks kinda dumb

Anyway how did Ant Man manage to have a lower OW than The First Avenger
 
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3N16MA

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Tyrese has 17 films to his name, 7 of those have grossed at least 600M WW, 6 over 700M, 3 over 1B.

True star power and the next John Stewart.
 
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kswiston

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BronsonLee said:
Personally, I think Ghost in the Shell would've succeeded if Tyrese was The Major
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Have him act the same as he does in the F&F movies, give him a sock to stuff that Stealth suit, and keep the big revelation
that he's actually a Japanese woman
at the ending.

Let the opinion pieces sort that one out.
 
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3N16MA

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kswiston said:
Have him act the same as he does in the F&F movies, given him a sock to stuff that Stealth suit, and keep the big revelation
that he's actually a Japanese woman
at the ending.

Let the opinion pieces sort that one out.
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Bobby Roberts

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ryutaro's mama said:
A lot of people seem to like discussing a movie they claim to hate...over and over.
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That's not really what's happening here

I mean, you pulling that line almost always happens here. But the actual "hate" isn't really happening.

It's a box-office thread. The movie is going to get brought up.
 
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hirokazu

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kswiston said:
Have him act the same as he does in the F&F movies, give him a sock to stuff that Stealth suit, and keep the big revelation
that he's actually a Japanese woman
at the ending.

Let the opinion pieces sort that one out.
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Fucking billion dollars right there.
 
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WhiteRabbitEXE

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I like that Minions juuuuust barely pushes Civil War out of the current standings for that range.

And by like I mean aaaaaaaaaa

edit: also poor BvS lol. Not anywhere close and aaaallllll over that thread.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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kswiston said:
We sort of had that back in 2014. This thread is set to expire at the end of the year:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=882317
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As much shit as I talked about ID4 2, I knew not to wade into that thread. Or I completely overlooked it.

But, in hindsight, this post is fun.

hodayathink said:
First of all, hindsight is 20/20. People would have laughed in your face if you said the next movie from the Tangled people would gross a billion dollars.

Also, predicting a Bond movie will be successful is one thing (it's been at least a decade since one wasn't successful). But there's a difference between "being a success" and grossing over a billion dollars. Predicting Skyfall would do that is basically similar to some people putting Fast and Furious 7 on their lists. Sure, it's a successful franchise, but this is a whole different level of success.

Or to use your other example, it wouldn't be a surprise if a Disney/Pixar movie made this list, but it might be a surprise which one it is. Maybe it's Inside/Out and not Finding Dory?
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Furious 7 really was this anomaly. That death boost!

And who the hell woulda thought that Zootopia would come within spitting distance of Dory worldwide?
 
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kswiston

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I skimmed the first 50 or so posts and didn't see anyone with more than 3/5 (likely) right, ignoring the ordering.

Most had Age of Ultron and TFA somewhere. I saw one Furious 7 and a few Episode 8s.

Avatar 2 wasted a lot of spots.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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In the last twenty years, the one thing you can reliably bank on Cameron doing besides blowing up the box office is him blowing a deadline.
 
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kswiston

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I think that people would have fared a lot worse in the same sort of challenge domestically. The top 5 from 2015-2017 are looking like:

Star Wars
Star Wars
Jurassic World
Star Wars
Beauty and the Beast


How many people would have gone with a Marvel shut out back in Summer 2014 as Guardians was launching?
 
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PhoncipleBone

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ryutaro's mama said:
Did you just call Paul Walker a human canister of NOS?

I think you did. 😮
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The real question now is what kind of death boost is Episode VIII going to get because of Carrie Fisher?

TFA had the major boost of being a long awaited Star Wars sequel with the original cast returning. The hunger was there. Last Jedi was always going to go down from that monster gross. But now that it has the morbid death boost? I really have no fucking clue how that is going to play out.
 
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PhoncipleBone said:
The real question now is what kind of death boost is Episode VIII going to get because of Carrie Fisher?

TFA had the major boost of being a long awaited Star Wars sequel with the original cast returning. The hunger was there. Last Jedi was always going to go down from that monster gross. But now that it has the morbid death boost? I really have no fucking clue how that is going to play out.
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OK, so the term Death Boost is now trending in this thread.

I wonder by percentage of gross, when all is said and done, who have the biggest death boost:

Furious7
The Last Jedi
The Dark Knight
The Crow
Street Fighter
 
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PhoncipleBone

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WhiteRabbitEXE said:
I mean, they might give nearly as much of a shit, but they still give a pretty massive shit nonetheless lol. Overseas was damn close to Furious 7 and still fourth all-time.
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They obviously give a shit, but the domestic/foreign split was much more even compared to other big films lately. Really it is just America going bonkers for it.

I remember Bobby posted an article last year about it was just repeat business from the core fans going over and over again that propelled TFA so high domestically, and not as much casual repeat business. Or something like that.
 
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WhiteRabbitEXE

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It's impossible to know for sure, but I doubt Paul Walker's death did much to boost the numbers outside of the US and similar markets. The growth there was completely unrelated. China sure as hell didn't jump from $66m to $390m because of it.

As far as VIII and Fisher goes, the "boost" is only going to be working to partly negate losses from TFA's numbers. So it'll help bring back casual viewers who were only checking out VII out of curiosity, but I don't think it'll cover the inevitable drop in repeat viewings or bring in anyone new because there's not many new people to bring in outside of China. And China doesn't give a fuck.

PhoncipleBone said:
They obviously give a shit, but the domestic/foreign split was much more even compared to other big films lately. Really it is just America going bonkers for it.

I remember Bobby posted an article last year about it was just repeat business from the core fans going over and over again that propelled TFA so high domestically, and not as much casual repeat business. Or something like that.
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Well I mean, again, overseas numbers still were bonkers though, because nearly tying for 3rd biggest all-time is pretty damn bonkers haha. It's just that America loves Star Wars to such an unbelievable degree that proportionately its overseas seems less impressive.
 
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hirokazu

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ryutaro's mama said:
OK, so the term Death Boost is now trending in this thread.

I wonder by percentage of gross, when all is said and done, who have the biggest death boost:

Furious7
The Last Jedi
The Dark Knight
The Crow
Street Fighter
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How do you quantify a death boost though? How do we know how much it would've made without an actor's death?
 
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