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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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AGITΩ

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Reviews be damned, Im still looking forward to it. I was expecting a film that focuses less on hamming it up and trying to through some comedic fun ala the Marvel films, and focus on a serious tone with ideologies at hand. For all its faults, I still enjoyed MoS. So haters gonna hate, Ill probably still enjoy it.
 

kswiston

Member
Dan Jurgens seems to like it:

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https://twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/712387244871458816

Jurgens knows that DC is the only home left for writers that havent been relevant since the 90s and is trying to stay in their good graces.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
The climax of the movie is so goddamn bad. It's almost intentionally bad.

I remember someone telling me "So... Hulk fights a cloud? I think? And, like, mutant dogs, but not even cool ones?" And I was so confused. Then I saw it. Couldn't believe what I was seeing.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
Good lord I can only imagine what would've happened if Star Wars had the same reception. Everbody would've been strangling eachother and we'd all jump off a cliff or something.


This thread is something else tho. Thanks for the laughs, GAF.

I'd equate it to Cthulu rising from the waves, and in a combination of awe, terror, and madness, all of humanity turns to one another and begins savagely murdering one another and slitting their own throats.
 
The climax of the movie is so goddamn bad. It's almost intentionally bad.

man i thought that scene with banner locked up with nolte was good, it was like watching some bizarre 2 man stage play. nolte was selling the fuck out of it. the fight scene was so freaking weird though. it reached grant morrison levels of wtf.

i gotta give it credit for some of the cool visuals though during that sequence. hulk in the clouds fighting his lightning dad (lol wut) was a trip. it's not a good action scene at all and yet it was too out there to shit on for me.
 

GhaleonEB

Member

“Batman v. Superman” tries to compensate for these flaws and others through sheer scale and volume. It’s two-and-a-half hours long, louder than an airstrip at O’Hare, gins up “excitement” with shaky-cam footage and hyperactive cutting, and has both figuratively and literally dark images.
Ug, shaky-cam is a killer for me.

There are a few brilliantly realized moments, the acting is mostly strong despite the weak script (Affleck and Cavill are both superb—Affleck unexpectedly so), and there's enough mythic raw material sunk deep in every scene that you can piece together a classic in your mind if you're feeling charitable; but if you aren't, “Batman v. Superman” will seem like a missed opportunity. At times it might make you long for Christopher Nolan's delicate touch. Those last four words have never appeared side-by-side before. Life’s funny that way.
God damn.
 
Okay, here's where things start to get shitty:

https://twitter.com/devincf/status/712458856647884800

I feel like BvS is the logical conclusion to bro culture infiltrating the nerd space.

This is just the same dumb-as-shit gatekeeping garbage that CliffyB was trying to pull on Olivia Munn a couple weeks ago. Snyder can just be bad at story and pacing. Because it's been a weakspot his entire career. It doesn't have to be evidence of some sort of nefarious infiltration of unworthies sullying our things with their greasy, meathead fingers.

The idea that Batman and Superman are the sole province of the nerd space is fucking dumb. The idea that Zack Snyder is a vanguard of "Bro Culture" because he lifts weights is almost as dumb. The idea that Batman and Superman turned out poorly because Zack Snyder got his bro culture smeared all over our Nerd Culture is just weird.

It's not like this sort of shit comes up when any other director screws up a "nerd" property. Nobody goes "Well, what do you expect, he does pushups."
 

NumberTwo

Paper or plastic?
I don't see the opening being majorly affected, but yeah, the legs are going to get hurt real bad if audience WOM is in-line with critical reaction.
If there is any silver lining to this (assuming tepid word of mouth and a significant 2nd WE drop off -- and yes that is a BIG if), perhaps WB will consider retooling their approach with this franchise. Maybe actually bringing in some creative talent who actually understand this universe, and trusting them to properly build the DCEU. People who understand that you shouldn't shoehorn incompatible tones/themes with certain characters.

But probably not, tho.
 

G-Fex

Member
Okay, here's where things start to get shitty:

https://twitter.com/devincf/status/712458856647884800



This is just the same dumb-as-shit gatekeeping garbage that CliffyB was trying to pull on Olivia Munn a couple weeks ago. Snyder can just be bad at story and pacing. Because it's been a weakspot his entire career. It doesn't have to be evidence of some sort of nefarious infiltration of unworthies sullying our things with their greasy, meathead fingers.

The idea that Batman and Superman are the sole province of the nerd space is fucking dumb. The idea that Zack Snyder is a vanguard of "Bro Culture" because he lifts weights is almost as dumb. The idea that Batman and Superman turned out poorly because Zack Snyder got his bro culture smeared all over our Nerd Culture is just weird.

It's not like this sort of shit comes up when any other director screws up a "nerd" property. Nobody goes "Well, what do you expect, he does pushups."

Careful there Bobby, you're making sense.
 

Cuburt

Member
At least DC-GAF can take solace in the fact that the fall out of this will probably lead to WB running back to the safety of Batman and an Affleck Batman solo film will fasttracked into production. Although that could mean movies like Shazam is getting scrapped and instead we get more Bat family.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
Captain America Civil War coming in May!
Man, I just hope it doesn't blow, too:

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man i thought that scene with banner locked up with nolte was good, it was like watching some bizarre 2 man stage play. nolte was selling the fuck out of it. the fight scene was so freaking weird though. it reached grant morrison levels of wtf.

i gotta give it credit for some of the cool visuals though during that sequence. hulk in the clouds fighting his lightning dad (lol wut) was a trip.

Word, and the Elfman score pumping through the actual fight ruled, too. Especially as during the flashes in the clouds.
 
Okay, here's where things start to get shitty:

https://twitter.com/devincf/status/712458856647884800



This is just the same dumb-as-shit gatekeeping garbage that CliffyB was trying to pull on Olivia Munn a couple weeks ago. Snyder can just be bad at story and pacing. Because it's been a weakspot his entire career. It doesn't have to be evidence of some sort of nefarious infiltration of unworthies sullying our things with their greasy, meathead fingers.

The idea that Batman and Superman are the sole province of the nerd space is fucking dumb. The idea that Zack Snyder is a vanguard of "Bro Culture" because he lifts weights is almost as dumb. The idea that Batman and Superman turned out poorly because Zack Snyder got his bro culture smeared all over our Nerd Culture is just weird.

It's not like this sort of shit comes up when any other director screws up a "nerd" property. Nobody goes "Well, what do you expect, he does pushups."

Excellent point. But your argument will fall apart when the director's cut has Batman ask "Tell me, do you lift?"
 

duckroll

Member
It's not like this sort of shit comes up when any other director screws up a "nerd" property. Nobody goes "Well, what do you expect, he does pushups."

This is definitely something very unfair that has been thrown at Snyder all his career. It's kinda sad. I mean, I get it, the guy looks like a bit of a jock meathead type, has tattoos, lifts weights, and his film tend to emphasis the masculine side of things and focus on action over more subtle storytelling. But at this point, those that continue to pile on that as a "look at this bro thinking he's one of us" is pretty gross. The guy clearly has a passion for comics and geek stuff, he also has other interests and his personality might not be the docile intellectually inclined idea of a nerd, and I think that's all cool. Wish he made better films though, considering the chances he's given. :p
 
Was never a doubt after I saw how many plots were gonna be shoehorned in this flick. Still gonna catch it for the action but still disgusted that
Doomsday not getting his own full flick smh.
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I'll do my best to leave my mind at the door.
 

Ahasverus

Member
At least DC-GAF can take solace in the fact that the fall out of this will probably lead to WB running back to the safety of Batman and an Affleck Batman solo film will fasttracked into production. Although that could mean movies like Shazam is getting scrapped and instead we get more Bat family.
Actually I think the lighthearted movies are coming, probably stealing a Marvel director/screenwriter. Shazam is safe, I think.
 
Okay, here's where things start to get shitty:

https://twitter.com/devincf/status/712458856647884800



This is just the same dumb-as-shit gatekeeping garbage that CliffyB was trying to pull on Olivia Munn a couple weeks ago. Snyder can just be bad at story and pacing. Because it's been a weakspot his entire career. It doesn't have to be evidence of some sort of nefarious infiltration of unworthies sullying our things with their greasy, meathead fingers.

The idea that Batman and Superman are the sole province of the nerd space is fucking dumb. The idea that Zack Snyder is a vanguard of "Bro Culture" because he lifts weights is almost as dumb. The idea that Batman and Superman turned out poorly because Zack Snyder got his bro culture smeared all over our Nerd Culture is just weird.

It's not like this sort of shit comes up when any other director screws up a "nerd" property. Nobody goes "Well, what do you expect, he does pushups."

Yeah the guy who has spent his entire career adapting hardcore nerd properties - including actually getting freakin Watchmen made - is a bro because he's in good shape? Lol.
 

Jimrpg

Member
I thought watchmen and 300 were horrible, so this is no surprise for me.

Zack's one of the most overated directors in Hollywood and he's definitely been given enough chances.
 

E the Shaggy

Junior Member
Just got out of this.

It's awful and I went in with really low expectations after Man of Steel.

There's zero character development and everything seems jumbled, like scenes are mixed up. Its bonkers.
 

kswiston

Member
Okay, here's where things start to get shitty:

https://twitter.com/devincf/status/712458856647884800



This is just the same dumb-as-shit gatekeeping garbage that CliffyB was trying to pull on Olivia Munn a couple weeks ago. Snyder can just be bad at story and pacing. Because it's been a weakspot his entire career. It doesn't have to be evidence of some sort of nefarious infiltration of unworthies sullying our things with their greasy, meathead fingers.

The idea that Batman and Superman are the sole province of the nerd space is fucking dumb. The idea that Zack Snyder is a vanguard of "Bro Culture" because he lifts weights is almost as dumb. The idea that Batman and Superman turned out poorly because Zack Snyder got his bro culture smeared all over our Nerd Culture is just weird.

It's not like this sort of shit comes up when any other director screws up a "nerd" property. Nobody goes "Well, what do you expect, he does pushups."

You don't understand Bobby. $200M comic films that get billion dollar merchandising portfolios and are watched by over 100M people worldwide used to be for the true fans. Now they are letting everyone in!
 
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