ManaByte
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Mat Piscatella: Despite "a rocky couple of years" Xbox's "future is actually looking pretty bright"
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UltimaKilo
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It’s not, and Microsoft does appear to be gearing up for a good year. However, then I remember who is running the show over there.
PeteBull
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Xbox future, that console brand is almost irrelevant now, and unless something major happens, it will vanish in a span of next few years, i think xbox would need gta6 exclusivity or similar meteor lvl of boost to survive as a console brand, ofc they can name w/e they want "xbox" but so what?
Woopah
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Even if their console brand becomes irrelevant, Xbox can make a lot of money by publishing games on PS5, Switch 2, PC and mobile.
That's what Matt is saying. That they can be quite successful as a third party publisher, by focusing less on hardware and Gamepass.
Either way, it's a prediction about the future. It can be wrong, but it can't be a lie.
RetroGamingUK
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Xbox will fall off a cliff in 2025
Microsoft Gaming will have a great 2025 thanks in part to PS5
Microsoft Gaming will have a great 2025 thanks in part to PS5
ComputerBlue
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Rocky couple of years multiplied by 8 maybe.
PeteBull
Member
xbox= ms console business, if their brand becomes irrelevant then there is no xbox, they can convince mouthbreathers that now xbox is just 3rd party publishing, but any1 who bought their consoles in the past, myself included, knows it means utter failure.
I understand when satya, phil and other snake oil salesmen from miscrosoft use that language, but matt is supposedly independed, yet falling right into that stupid narration microsoft trying so hard to spread, if today ms would start yelling about power of the cloud matt would be yelling about it right beside them.
From my pov guy has 0 integrity and credibility, u basically gotta have legit info from other sources to understand how he tries to lie to u so u dont fall into that trap, thats actually quite evil coz most of console users probably arent as knowneldgeable as ur avg gaffer who for the most part knows real situation xbox is in
TLDR: Avg console gamer gonna be less confused w/o ever reading this statement of his, so like i said, it proves he is paid to lie to make avg ppl more confused, ofc if u go about it "technically" its not a lie, and yet, if u had family member talking such shit everytime u met him u would not wanna even talk to him- its like him saying stuff like that:
Spoilers, when ur gf suggest going on a break- its all over, relationship ended
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
All of "Microsoft Gaming" is part of the Xbox brand.
Whether people like it or not, anyone discussing "Xbox" is also discussing games sold on PS5 under the XGS / Bethesda / Activision umbrella.
They bought a shit ton of revenue, so it's nothing to really pat them on the back over though.
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Xbox doesn't mean shit, it's an empty word, or a synonym to Microsoft.
Currently we can say it's fine if they stop caring about console wars. And yeah theoretically who cares if they become a third party publisher at this point ? What matters is the games and it seems they're finally coming.
But i think we're going to run into a problem very soon when they come to the conclusion (they probably already reached it actually) that some of their studios have no use anymore because they were bought for a purpose that no longer exists. And that they're not making any money with them. It's going to be Tango/Arkane x 10.
It's not because the games are out on PS5 that it's going to work well for all of them. Especially with the shitty Microsoft marketing.
Currently we can say it's fine if they stop caring about console wars. And yeah theoretically who cares if they become a third party publisher at this point ? What matters is the games and it seems they're finally coming.
But i think we're going to run into a problem very soon when they come to the conclusion (they probably already reached it actually) that some of their studios have no use anymore because they were bought for a purpose that no longer exists. And that they're not making any money with them. It's going to be Tango/Arkane x 10.
It's not because the games are out on PS5 that it's going to work well for all of them. Especially with the shitty Microsoft marketing.
Shmunter
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In real world terms, In what actual scenario is that compelling? PSN does streaming, we don’t talk about it.
Humdinger
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Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 looks good. Why it's being talked about as an Xbox game, I don't know. It's not.
South of Midnight is a Cajun-themed game from Compulsion, a studio MS acquired 4-5 years back. Their last game was We Happy Few, which didn't do so well. We'll see how this one does.
He's talking about Xbox as a publishing brand, not as a console. MS is trying to rebrand "Xbox" to represent their all of their publishing efforts, including everything appearing on PC and Playstation. It's a bit confusing, because until now, everyone who heard "Xbox" thought first about the console. Now MS wants everyone to think everything is an Xbox, and everywhere an MS-published title appears, that's an "Xbox" game. It's a branding thing.
Whether everyone gets on board with it, who knows. MS isn't the greatest at messaging, and as usual they are confusing people. "Wait, what does 'Xbox' mean again?"
Freelance Yakuza
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for the last twelve years no less
balls of snow
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XBox hardware is over. I just want the games man.
Pretty sure that's exactly what they're doing. Xbox is just to sell subs
They're in an off situation where when it comes to games, due to gamepass, they make more money on PS5 or PC than they do on xbox
Humdinger
Gold Member
Right. It's confusing though, because for 25 years, the word "Xbox" has meant the Xbox console. Now they want to use the same word, "Xbox," to refer to anything they publish or distribute, on any platform. People are understandably confused.
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StereoVsn
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Out of all of that, there is only one guaranteed seller, Doom. Everything else is a big question mark as to actual real sales and if it pushes subs in a meaningful way.
Fable is a huge unknown. There is not that much positive reaction based on what was shown so far. That could of course change.
Outer Worlds 2 isn’t likely to sell all that much judging by the first game.
Avowed is supposed to be smaller in scope similar to Outer Worlds, but it is Fantasy vs SciFi so it’s likely to sell better, but I doubt it’s going to be a huge amount.
And South of Midnight is not significant one way or another.
Of course the question is if sheer volume of new releases will push people to sub. That’s going to be interesting to watch.
Sooner
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Or begin
ChorizoPicozo
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Don't Game Pass Console and Game Pass PC have different games? It is not a unified ecosystem, right?
ChorizoPicozo
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S0ULZB0URNE
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What is 1st party when everything goes to other gaming devices?
ChorizoPicozo
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avowed and South of midnight still have some exclusivity.
i don't think anything Zenimax or ABK has.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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Lol. Xbox as a console is basically dead. As a publisher they'll probably be fine unless they continue pushing unhinged DEI nonsense and releasing unfinished games.
Mr Moose
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They can keep that shit, they look terrible.
sainraja
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And yet the one that does not, is the one that bothers you the most... that is telling.
RetroGamingUK
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It’s the other way around, Sarah Bond (president of Xbox) reports to Phil Spencer (CEO of Microsoft Gaming)
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
~ 90% the same with some exceptions like no Starcraft 1/2 on console, cause there were never console ports, or some cases like a game which was EGS exclusive on PC so it only came to console game pass, I forget its name, it was something last year. Maybe Dead Island 2 or Dying Light or one of those.
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StereoVsn
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Yeah, that does look good and so does Doom. Everything else will either not sell (South of Midnight), probably be mid judging by Outer Worlds 1 and current previews (OW2 and Avowed) and who the hell knows (Fable).
Edit: I don’t think Xbox is going to disappear. They will still produce next gen hardware, perhaps targeted at enthusiasts or allow custom builds by 3rd parties and will make a handheld.
They will also continue to push GamePass subs and probably will expand their game publishing on PS and Switch 2. MS has a metric ton of cash so as long as Satya/Phil can show some sort of progress (real or not), Xbox will continue ticking.
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Interesting he didn't bring up folks like me, who got suckered into buying a 600$ fucking paperweight, and then dropped Xbox after decades with the brand. Ill bet there are a ton of us.
"This is the year!" Yeah the year of Xbox everywhere, but on a fucking Xbox console.
The sooner the Xbox brand is dead and buried, and Microsoft is relegated to the mid-tier third party that they are, the better.
"This is the year!" Yeah the year of Xbox everywhere, but on a fucking Xbox console.
The sooner the Xbox brand is dead and buried, and Microsoft is relegated to the mid-tier third party that they are, the better.
Bonfires Down
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Ok, but let’s not sweep under the rug the sheer amount of games they need to sell to compensate for the eventual loss of a first party platform revenue, including Game Pass. A Microsoft game selling 10 million on all platforms would be a major hit, and if sold digitally at full price it would account for about $500 million of revenue. But that’s only around 2.5% of the revenue of their whole gaming division over a year. And in reality they will net much less than that when accounting for physical copies and discounts.
Granted, a lot of their gaming revenue IS already generated from multiplatform games, so maybe just half of it comes from the revenues of a first party platform. But that is still very significant.
Granted, a lot of their gaming revenue IS already generated from multiplatform games, so maybe just half of it comes from the revenues of a first party platform. But that is still very significant.
FunkMiller
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These pathetic 'going third party isn't a bad thing actually' fluff pieces are getting more and more embarrassing.
The fact people keep falling for, and signal boosting, this corporate bullshit never fails to astound me.
The fact people keep falling for, and signal boosting, this corporate bullshit never fails to astound me.
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nnytk
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It makes sense if you look at Xbox, like you'd look at Sega. But then... bigger.
I don't mind Xbox going "publisher" mode tbh, it's kind of a win for everyone. It just means Xbox will be doing it's own thing from now on. Having "the big three" doing rather different things with games and consoles, is interesting to me.
I don't mind Xbox going "publisher" mode tbh, it's kind of a win for everyone. It just means Xbox will be doing it's own thing from now on. Having "the big three" doing rather different things with games and consoles, is interesting to me.
PeteBull
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Remember the days of og xbox and early days of x360? Mountain of exclusives, 3rd party games playing visibly better on it vs competition, actual humongous sales of first party games, let any of xbox CEO's make similar post today:
Back then xbox was so agressive they even moneyhatted bunch of jrpgs which was crazy popular top genre, u simply needed an xbox, even if u didnt want it u still needed it
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Astray
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Translation: "Xbox is going downhill fast, but Microsoft Gaming is poised to do great".
Despite "a rocky couple of years," analyst reckons Xbox's console war is "actually looking pretty bright" - "If you look at the PlayStation sales chart, you see a lot of Microsoft on there"
"You look at their results in their earnings reports, and you go, okay, that looks pretty darn good"www.gamesradar.com
GREEN RATS ASSEMBLE
Which is not wrong tbh.
Astray
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I watched this episode 2 days ago lmao. Life is weird in that way.
Spoilers, when ur gf suggest going on a break- its all over, relationship ended
ManaByte
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He literally says the “Xbox brand” in his quote, but I know reading is hard.
Astray
Member
Yep, he's playing along the shell game Microsoft has been playing for a while between the names "Xbox" and "Microsoft Gaming", like they do with Phil Spencer's job title, or in this case, 3P publishing initiative.
Reading can be hard for some, but definitely not as hard as reading between the lines.
Sanepar
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He is a pathological xbox fanboy and never hidden this.
