TheRedRiders
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Digital Foundry are claiming that RDN 4’s RT performance is lacklustre, I’m curious to see how the 9070 XT will stack up against the 5070 in that regard, let alone the 5070 Ti.
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AMD Radeon RX 9070 expected to start at $479, benchmarks now released (Up: Radeon 9000 series go on sale in late March)
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iQuasarLV
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Well you do what you need to when you play 20 year old games that are not supported anymore. I cannot fault anyone for searching for solutions the developer nor hardware companies want to embrace. I can fault people who drop $5k every 8-12 months on upgrades because they are no different than gambling addicts who just have to chase that payoff.
Buggy Loop
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He wants to go back to 2015
If you watch his videos you’ll understand
Nobody is going back there. Cerny didn’t make a pro console with more ML and RT because evil Nvidia sets a master plan that everyone has to follow. Dafuq is this?
That video is his most unhinged so far. Criticism to bad optimization or badly using tools you are given I give props, but now he’s a chihuahua barking at every trees. The attacks he received and got kicked out of UE forums took a toll on him, I expected a better return than just wildly swinging in a desperate crowdfunding call. That’s a weak ass call to arms.
iQuasarLV
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Haha, bro the mental image I got when reading this is awesome. What's better as a former chihuahua owner it rang home =D.
Guardian Monkey
Member
I don’t doubt that most newer AAA games will support it. But who know what happens if AMD has a software solution that out muscles Nvidia in a few years? You still would need a set of computational metrics from frames from a natively rendered image as baseline for comparisons to know what the hardware was capable of.
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It's ~4080 raster and ~4070Ti RT perf.
VolticArchangel
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This guy just outright spouts his headcanon as the truth in some of his AMD roadmap videos to rdna and the AMDrones eat it up because of his asmr voicetrap.
There's also this another guy named Adored TV or w/e IIRC, don't know if he still does YT, and he almost does the same thing, but at least he got some of things right like release dates and has sources within AMD.
Crayon
Member
Seriously though they both have great voices lol. I've never seen them once show anything to back their rumors up, but I'd hire either to narrate a dark documentary.
AGRacing
Member
I like how it took a mistake to get them to do the correct thing and be competitive. They SHOULD be selling a 5080 tier card in raster (inferior in upscale and RT) as a competitor to the 5070 class. It’s the only way anyone other than die hard AMD guys (of which there are too few to justify a business) were ever going to buy the thing.
Will they price it by name and take the W and grow the market share a little? Let’s see if they can manage to fuck it up in the final minutes.
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Randall365
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We will know from the pricing - supply and demand. That was the reason for the delay I think - to avoid having to cut the price soon after launch and the message that sends.
I think they are taking dlss and ray reconstruct into account. From that perspective AMD is way behind on RT
DenchDeckard
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anyone got plans for the 6th of March?
Not really. AMD have decided that taking advantage of Intel's continual missteps is far more profitable than taking on NV who have been pretty damn good execution machines.
Also a 9800X3D for $500 is going to have far higher margin than any $500 GPU and when that part is in such high demand why use wafer capacity for the less profitable product.
That is the dGPU dilemma for AMD. If Intel were more competitive then AMD would have lower prices and probably lower volume so the dGPUs while lower margin and adding value where as now when AMD can't make the 9800X3D fast enough dGPUs just compe with their own wafer capacity.
Also NV gained market share through reliable execution with only a few mis steps in their history. FX, Fermi, Turing kinda and Blackwell kinda. AMD have been far more hit and miss which has allowed NV to take up the dominant market position. Now NV have it they have been trying to leverage that with walled gardens the same way they leverage CUDA in the pro space and it seems to be working.
winjer
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AMD did officially say it's because of improvements to stocks and their software stack.
But I agree that AMD seeing Blackwell being just a rebrand of Ada Lovelace, made AMD rethink their whole strategy.
SolidQ
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AMD RDNA 4 GPUs without GDS and GWS
GDS と GWS を持たない AMD RDNA 4 GPU | Coelacanth's Dream
AMD GCN アーキテクチャから存在していた、すべての CU (Compute Unit) からアクセス可能なスクラッチメモリ GDS (Global Data Share) と、異なる CU や SE (Shader Engine) で実行されているスレッドグループ、Wave と同期
www.coelacanth-dream.com
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
NVIDIA had arguably their worst product launch since Fermi. Blackwell fucking sucks.
Let's hope AMD responds accordingly.
winjer
Member
I'm just waiting to see how the Radeon Group screws up this chance.
Especially the marketing team, they are such screw ups, I'm surprised they still have a job.
Rosoboy19
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I feel like he did make a good point on AMD’s lack of innovation, though. At this point they may have just conceded that their custom APU designs for console and handheld devices are their best chance for financial success so instead of putting in all the R&D for desktop gpu innovation, they simply let NVidia do that work then copy their technologies (albeit a generation late and with inferior quality) to use in future APU designs.
Or, maybe they really DO want to beat NVidia in desktop gpu and they just suck at it. /shrug
Rocco Schiavone
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What should happen that day?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I’m already camping out in front of Microcenter.
SolidQ
Member
That new...
www.pcguide.com
RX 7900 XTX is rapidly going out of stock across major retailers following the RTX 50 series launch
Following the RTX 50 series launch, it seems as if many have started opting for AMD's 7900 XTX instead, leading to stock-outs for the card.
www.pcguide.com
DenchDeckard
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It's 2 days before my Daughters birthday and I was thinking of having a party, amd inviting you all.
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TheRedRiders
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It's 2 days before my Daughters birthday and I was thinking of having a party, amd inviting you all.
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FingerBang
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Man, knowing what we know, AMD has literally no blockers in front of them.
I CAN'T WAIT to see how they fuck it up.
I CAN'T WAIT to see how they fuck it up.
N0S
Al Pachinko, Konami President
That new...
RX 7900 XTX is rapidly going out of stock across major retailers following the RTX 50 series launch
Following the RTX 50 series launch, it seems as if many have started opting for AMD's 7900 XTX instead, leading to stock-outs for the card.
I might buy one
SolidQ
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In Gaming Graphics, revenue declined year over year, as we accelerated channel sellout in preparation for the launch of our next-gen Radeon 9000 series GPUs.
Our focus with this generation is to address the highest volume portion of the enthusiast gaming market with our new RDNA 4 architecture. RDNA 4 delivers significantly better rate tracing performance and add support for AI-powered upscaling technology that will bring high-quality 4K gaming to mainstream players when the first Radeon 9070 series GPUs go on sale in early March.
Dr. Lisa Su - AMD CEO (Q4 2024 Earnings Call)
We will see how it highest
DenchDeckard
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Would be amazing if we saw some really good competition in the mid range from Intel, AMD and NVIDIA. We deserve it!
DirtInUrEye
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I'm on Nvidia but I want to see AMD smash it with these new cards, it needs to be done.
SolidQ
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Solving the Dense Geometry Problem
Discover how AMD's Dense Geometry Compression Format (DGF) revolutionizes graphics by compressing complex models for efficient real-time rendering, bridging the gap between rasterization and ray tracing.
gpuopen.com
Ev1L AuRoN
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With FSR4 finally being hardware accelerated and improvements to the RT performance, that might be the disruptive card we are waiting for. At the very least I hope this card kick NVIDIA out of their comfort zone, ripping us off with their mid-end offerings.
DenchDeckard
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100%
Bry0
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I like mine. Great for 4k
kiphalfton
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Considering some stores already got stock allegedly, that's just been sitting there for like a month at this point... drivers must suck really bad.
Otherwise why wouldn't AMD do everything in their power to beat Nvidia to market.
iQuasarLV
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Uh, because AMD literally follows Nvidia's heels in business decisions. Since Nvidia fucked up the launch of the 5000 series AMD has no lead to follow. They have to absolutely nail the FSR4 feature launch to coincide with the 9070 or they are fucked for an entire generation.
Pricing is not the only hurdle AMD has to pass to actually sell cards. Especially since they announced losses in that department last year in which console sales can no longer hide from the investors. They need to make up Radeon $$$ from somewhere now that console sales are slowing.
FingerBang
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We've been asking this question for years.
Topher
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Sometimes it seems like that's the same as me saying I'm going to do everything in my power to beat Lebron James in a basketball game
DenchDeckard
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It's because they get one shot at this launch.
I can confirm that the company i work for has had stock for some time.
I have close relationships with the industry and not even staff at AMD know the true reasons for the delay last time I spoke to them.
Rumours are it's to combat 50 series and to ensure software was in a better place.
Fortuneelsewhere
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I understand people don’t like fake frames but for me the experience that I had with it was great.. and I’m sure it was one of the worst implementations in a video game.. I’m referring to BMW.. even so for me it felt much better to play the game this way than the 30 or 40 fps modes.. I’ve managed to have really great moments playing it and finish the game in the 60 fps mode and now I’m really a great advocate for this technology in single player games.. I only wish more developers implement it…
metareferential
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Disruptive? To do that it needs to beat - and not only be comparable - to a good and expensive nvidia card.
If it ends up being comparable in raster alone it won’t do anything for anyone.
Since nvidia new offerings are basically refreshes with some unproven new tech, these cards might fit in nicely.
But to sway nvidia users, or change nvidia behaviour, even on the lower end, they need to either come out handily on top, or have comparable extra features (RT, frame gen and a much better FSR) at a much much lower price.
Not really optimistic about it, but curious nonetheless.
Bradamante3D
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How? It outperforms a 4080 Super in synthetics:
Radeon RX 9070 XT Benchmarks: 3D Mark Time Spy Extreme and Speed Way Benchmarks
The AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT graphics card has recently been subjected to performance testing using 3D Mark Time Spy Extreme and Speed Way benchmarks. As one of the first high-end RDNA 4-based GPUs from AMD, the RX 9070 XT has garnered attention for its raw performance metrics.www.guru3d.com
… for less than half the price….
This is an amazing offering.
Raytracing performance will suck on AMD as always, don't worry.
Ev1L AuRoN
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The RX 480 wasn't competing in the high-end segment, it was a powerful GPU in the $200 to $300 mark, and it made NVIDIA launch one of the most legendary generations with the 10xx series, that disrupt the market and benefited gamers on both teams, If the 9000 series can do the same on the XX70 all be all for it. I live in Brazil and the high-end products are prohibited expensive around here, so I live and die on the mid-range segment, and in these line NVIDIA got a bit too comfortable and the mid-range today cost as much as a xx80 tier card.