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April U.S. Primaries |OT| Vote in 20 Turns for World Leader

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Grover Cleveland

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InsaneZero said:
The GOP must be extremely healthy right now then.
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The GOP went past the point of "vigorous nomination process" a long time ago.

But even in the end, they'll end up nominating Trump and they'll try their hardest to pretend to all be behind him too. A third candidate (whether it be Trump after he loses the nomination because of hijinks or someone they run to oppose him after he wins the nomination) doesn't suit them.
 
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Aaron Strife

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JP_ said:
It's real, but I agree it's small. Still worth addressing, but most of the misogynists/racists are already at home with Trump anyway. Bernie's comments on racism/sexism would turn them off.



Yeah but that'd only work if there are a ton of people that will vote that don't know the first thing there is to know about Sanders. I never thought he'd get this far. He's way more popular than I imagined he'd be, despite being labeled a socialist from day 1.
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Sanders is still a far more unknown quantity than Hillary.

People don't pay that much attention to politics until around Labor Day. The total number of people voting in the primaries probably won't add up to even a quarter of the overall electorate.
 
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Spinifex

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mcfrank said:
I don't mean from the campaign itself. I mean from supporters on the Internet.
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They're called brogressives, GAF is full of them, and Hillary will count them among her supporters soon enough. It's not a Bernie Sanders problem, it's a liberal problem.
 
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Koomaster

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JP_ said:
I want to see a Clinton/Sanders//Sanders/Clinton ticket -- either order. Don't like seeing all this animosity within the dem party. Want to see dems united strong against Trump/Cruz.
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I will not vote for Hillary if she has Sanders anywhere near her presidency.
 
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ivysaur12

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Aaron Strife said:
Sanders is still a far more unknown quantity than Hillary.

People don't pay that much attention to politics until around Labor Day. The total number of people voting in the primaries probably won't add up to even a quarter of the overall electorate.
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See:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...republicans-see-sanders-as-an-easier-opponent

As Bernie Sanders makes his case that he is a stronger general election candidate than Hillary Clinton, he often cites polls showing him outperforming his Democratic rival in hypothetical general-election match-ups with Republicans.

“You know, in virtually all of the general election match-up polls between Trump and Secretary Clinton and Trump and Bernie Sanders, in almost all of those polls, I do better than Secretary Clinton,” Sanders said Thursday night during the Brooklyn debate, attributing his strength to independents. “We are not going to win the White House based on just long-term Democratic votes. We have got to reach out to independents and I think I am well qualified to do that.”

In surveys released last week by Fox News and CBS News, Clinton leads Republican front-runner Donald Trump by 7 and 10 points, respectively; she's statistically tied with Ted Cruz; and she trails John Kasich by 9 and 6 points. The same surveys show Sanders leading Trump by larger margins of 14 and 17 points; leading Cruz by 12 points in both surveys; and besting Kasich by 4 and 5 points, respectively.
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And yet, prominent Republican operatives are chomping at the bit to face Sanders, a U.S. senator from Vermont and self-described democratic socialist, in the general election, believing he'd be an easier opponent than the former first lady, U.S. senator and secretary of state.

“Republicans are being nice to Bernie Sanders because we like the thought of running against a socialist. But if he were to win the nomination the knives would come out for Bernie pretty quick,” said Ryan Williams, a former spokesman for 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney's campaign. “There's no mystery what the attack on him would be. Bernie Sanders is literally a card carrying socialist who honeymooned in the Soviet Union. There'd be hundreds of millions of dollars in Republican ads showing hammers and sickles and Soviet Union flags in front of Bernie Sanders.”

“Hillary Clinton is a much more centrist candidate in comparison,” Williams said, and she would have a better chance of winning over moderate and undecided voters, despite numerous polls showing that many Americans, even in the Democratic Party, don't view her as honest and trustworthy. “Bernie's numbers are better than hers right now because she's been in the political arena for 30 years getting beat up,” he said.
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Fenderputty

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ivysaur12 said:
Celebrating tonight

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I must have this cup
 
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Dangansona

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Random17 said:
Considering the corruption attacks he's made against her... it'll be odd if he endorses Mrs Wallstreet after the primary.

I doubt even s4p will buy it by that point.
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I see him endorsing her under the pretense she isn't Trump or Cruz and the democratic platforms they share while still calling out some of her shortcomings.

It might not be the ringing endorsement Hill fans will hope for, but I bet she will get one.
 
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VanCityGamer

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Big win for Trump, but it still seems quite unlikely he'll get the required number of delegates. This thing will go to a contested convention where he'll get the boot.
 
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Pedrito

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Watching TYT circle jerking about how intellectually and morally superior they are, it reminds of how weird it is that when it comes to voting, we are all absolutely convinced that the choice we make is the only right one and that anyone who disagrees is an ignorant idiot that is destroying the country.
 
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dlauv

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He has said that he would fully endorse her in just about every interview asking the question because it's very important that a democrat is in office.
 
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Spinifex

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Pedrito said:
Watching TYT circle jerking about how intellectually and morally superior they are, it reminds of how weird it is that when it comes to voting, we are all absolutely convinced that the choice we make is the only right one and that anyone who disagrees is an ignorant idiot that is destroying the country.
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Pretty much. It's a circumcision / tipping debate made flesh.
 
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B-Dubs

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VanCityGamer said:
Big win for Trump, but it still seems quite unlikely he'll get the required number of delegates. This thing will go to a contested convention where he'll get the boot.
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If they do that then there's going to be a riot, which is why I'll be taking those days off work.
 
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Joe Shlabotnik

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Mr. RPG said:
I disagree.

I think that the divide between Hillary and Bernie supporters is much larger than you realize.
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You've been saying til you're blue in the face that most Bernie supporters won't vote for Trump. That's literally the only metric for "division" that matters. Which is it?
 
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Mr. RPG

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Joe Shlabotnik said:
You've been saying til you're blue in the face that most Bernie supporters won't vote for Trump. That's literally the only metric for "division" that matters. Which is it?
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Because we don't want a republican as president!

Why is that hard for you to understand?

Would you not vote for Bernie in a general election?
 
Sub_Level

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Retro4ever said:
How old are you where your mother is bringing chicken nuggets to your bedroom?
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That one is fake. Mom buying chicken tendies is a meme. You are internet-sheltered if you haven't heard it before. (which isn't a bad thing, but just saying)
 
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Chezzymann

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VanCityGamer said:
Big win for Trump, but it still seems quite unlikely he'll get the required number of delegates. This thing will go to a contested convention where he'll get the boot.
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Problem is, with this win (and assuming a strong showing next week, possibly sweeping Connecticut), if he isn't getting 1237 its going to be CLOSE. I'm talking within 70 delegates. And if they deny him the nomination when he has like, 48% of the delegates while cruz has like 30%, that could cause a shitstorm of epic proportions.
 
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gutter_trash

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eBay Huckster said:
i get the feeling (from bernie flying off to VT alone + devine's messaging) that we're actually in the endgame right now, irrespective of what Dumb Twitter and Dumb Reddit say
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how did he get to fly to Burlington, VT so fast? how does a modest small donations candidate get his own private plane?
 
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Joe Shlabotnik

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Mr. RPG said:
Because we don't want a republican as president!

Why is that hard for you to understand?

Would you not vote for Bernie in a general election?
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I have no idea what this answer has to do with my post.

Of course I would vote for Bernie in the general election.

You've been pushing hard against (and taking weirdly personal offense at) posts that suggest Bernie supporters wouldn't vote for Hillary in the general in all these threads. But now you just said you think the "divide" is comparable or worse than '08. The only reason the contentiousness matters is for general election votes. So which is it?
 
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