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Hajime Tabata: "Currently no plans to reveal more info about Versus XIII"
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Probably because he keeps being asked about it when its not his project to speak on and he wants to focus on the game he's working on right now
I don't think anyone is 100% happy with how this arrangement turned out.
That's Kagari.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Duckroll's pickup line for Kagari.
"Gurl, you look like the sleeping goddess from Final Fantasy Versus XIII's game logo."
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Ideally, they should have worked hard on delivering the style of game that was presented to fans for so many years. That includes the project after the rebrand in which we were shown Insomnia, Stella and character switching.
If they put the resources they pumped into Kingsglaive and making this open world into delivering something more in line with the initial promises then the divide wouldn't be so bad.
If they put the resources they pumped into Kingsglaive and making this open world into delivering something more in line with the initial promises then the divide wouldn't be so bad.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
*Kagari screams*
Earthpainting
Member
Taking about Versus 13 will just do more harm right now than good. He needs people to let go of this phantom hypothetical game that never was, because no one can compete against hopes and dreams that spun out of control.
People who insist clinging to Versus 13 can had over to fanfiction.net. The game had been more in development over there than in Square Enix' offices.
People who insist clinging to Versus 13 can had over to fanfiction.net. The game had been more in development over there than in Square Enix' offices.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
The moment they decided the Insomnia opening wasn't feasible was probably a key factor in getting Stella removed/changed/adapted in the game. All the media we had of her was in Insomnia.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Dark_castle
Junior Member
To be fair, he was asked by interviewer to talk about Versus XIII, not like he went out of his way to bring it up.
HAHAA!!
The lose of the yakuza constrast was the worst. Now both sides are just generic fantasy crap.
encephalon
Member
It'd be easier for people to forget Versus if FFXV had shown off any new intriguing story content to take place of what grabbed the interest of those who were looking forward to Versus.
I don't know why people keep bringing up fanfiction. I don't care about what other people dream up, just as I find it hard to care about Tabata's current take on Nomura's vision. I wanted the Versus XIII Nomura saw. I wanted the game with Nomura's flair throughout.
I don't play dollhouse in my head with the characters but rather envision how the project may have panned out if it was still under Nomura's control. The same way people wonder how Dune may have turned out if Jodorowsky's version ever saw the light of day, or if Human Head got to finish and release Prey 2.
If XV was still Nomura's baby I'm sure he'd make the changes work. Whatever Tabata and crew's doing now just isn't working for me.
I don't play dollhouse in my head with the characters but rather envision how the project may have panned out if it was still under Nomura's control. The same way people wonder how Dune may have turned out if Jodorowsky's version ever saw the light of day, or if Human Head got to finish and release Prey 2.
If XV was still Nomura's baby I'm sure he'd make the changes work. Whatever Tabata and crew's doing now just isn't working for me.
Pretty sure it was digital from day 1? Not sure why you have to be so rude about it though. It's a fun game...
how cute
SoraNoKuni
Member
PSY・S;214926216 said:
Couldn't agree more.
PSY・S;214926216 said:
You may need to replay khDDD and its... story...
it might level you're high expectations of Nomura's storytelling and vision. Nomura wanted Versus to be 3 games. I can't trust that man on a multi-installment story. On a singular, experimental experiance, sure Nomura is great, but man...
I will admit that he did a damn good job at enticing people with trailers and a "brooding tone" but he was pretty strong on that wouldn't really be the real experience of the game. But I honestly feel like the "Nomura magic" and "what versus 13 would have been" is dumb and short sighted. Likely we would have had a 25 hour rpg (see: KH2; its around that length if you skip the skippable worlds) that ends on a cliffhanger. As for changes, I'm actually kinda glad they changed Stella (STELLA!!!) because what it seemed like from interviews was that she was very much a Juliet (and not badass Romeo x Juliet Juliet, no I mean Shakespeare-super girly Juliet (hence the "i thought she wasn't my kind of pretty" comments from Nomura))
Much of what we saw of Versus 13 was concept cgi, like in the KH secret movies. Not complete things, just thoughts in Nomura's brain given budget.
I will say one thing though. Nomura's projects make some ACE Cg hype material. It might all be bullshit in one way or another, but its still great.
Not sure why they're so hesitant to make a big story trailer so close to launch or showcase the narrative at all really.
Yep, I believe it's that, I don't think he's happy with inheriting Nomura's work and goes salty anytime someone asks.
What bothers me is that this transition Versus > XV doesn't seem like it was cordial or "nice", a lot of decissions made with XV seem made just for the sake of changing things Nomura & co decided on so that Tabata & co can say "Hey look, this our thing!". I mean, what is that was not working of Nomura's take on the game? The combat? Sure, change the combat, but why change (sigh, here I go...) Stella or the Yakuza style or Regis? The setting? The story? Why? We never got an explanation and at this rate we'll never will.
The game is currently set on this uncomfortable area were we can't be sure if things are from the original vision or they are new, or even reused or changed, and it shows. Instead of "fixing" what was already done and not working or creating all new stuff we have an in-between thing. This is what's not working for me. And Tabata is not doing nothing to alleviate this sensation. Not that he has to, of course, but it's just not working for me and I don't think I'm the only one...
A part of me is hoping they are just being weird like ND was with The Last Of Us' multiplayer
My expectation is that the story will be slightly bare bones and likely retreads of previous FF story lines
Funny you think that because that trailer is pretty versus.
encephalon
Member
The lack of this at E3 honestly surprised me. Unless it's based on a marketing decision to put gameplay front and center to attract fans of open world games that wouldn't otherwise be interested in Final Fantasy, I'm finding it hard to imagine a scenario where this game isn't extremely light on story. The intro of the game certainly did nothing to allay my fears.
Perhaps I have "Final Fantasy Disease."
Dark_castle
Junior Member
PSY・S;214926216 said:
You are talking in terms of gameplay right? I agree with that. Versus XIII/early XV's gameplay looks to be the most fun version to me, despite being relatively barebones in mechanics. Story though, maybe you get some well-directed event scenes by Jun Akiyama, but the actual script by Nomura will probably be loads of horse shit.
encephalon
Member
Almost all media we had was in Insomnia.
Crazy, wild, conjecture: Given the similarities between FFXIII and Type 0's ending, and that scene, I'd imagine the game would have ended in
one of them killing the other.
Nomura doesn't write, he's sort of this spiritual guru who has everything in his head and then Nojima writes it all down on paper. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
The way the guy in charge of the Osaka team (I forgot his name lol) explains it he just sort of appears to them once a week via skype or something, says his piece (everything cryptic and weird of course), and it's up to the team to figure out what the fuck was all that lololol
The way the guy in charge of the Osaka team (I forgot his name lol) explains it he just sort of appears to them once a week via skype or something, says his piece (everything cryptic and weird of course), and it's up to the team to figure out what the fuck was all that lololol
Alexgecaro
Member
Who cares? Maybe Luna had it right...
But how is it fanfiction? The development of the game and the people involved are just as interesting as the world of Versus itself. I want to know more about how it was conceived, what the various development woes were, what Nomura hoped to achieve at each milestone, and how he feels about the project now. It'd be great to learn about Tabata and his thoughts and history with Versus/XV as well. Not every project goes through a 10 year development crisis so it's well worth talking about.
Nojima wrote the script.
Versus XIII actually looked like an interesting game. Whether it was intentional or not SE made it sound like these were the same game.
This statement makes 15 sound more like Versus XIII got axed straight out and 15 was made using what they could salvage.
If they just straight up show the ending before the game comes out I'm holding you personally responsible.
just like how you caused the delay
They are making it seem like there's nothing going on in the story besides the Altissia attack and the summon boss battles, really. They need to get someone to edit a good story trailer like those from Versus and Nomura XV, showing new scenes and characters without revealing too much.
The Dawn trailer would be a perfect example of what I want, it just needs better pace and less long scenes.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Is it delusional if I hope to see the reveal of all Versus CGI scenes and its story one day?
Eh maybe? Has that been reported? It's hard to do what Nomura wanted to do it he's no longer on the project.
I agree that having to endure the FFXIII 3 game trainwreck plus FFXIV getting a reboot was a spotlight stealer, although revamping FFXIV was worth it imo. XIII on the other hand went on for far too long. It probably did irreversible harm to FF's reputation. The creepy obsession with Lightning... ugh.
If Nomura was making FFXV it probably wouldn't even be close to being done though. It sucks if he really got screwed over that badly, but dragging out your game for so long has consequences. It was supposed to be a PS3 game with a different title. We should have been anticipating FFXVI by now. That's just nuts.
Vincent Grayson
Member
It would be delusional to expect it. At best, maybe someone will publish a tell-all book about it in a couple decades.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was pretty sure they said Nomura had finished all the stuff he was working on so he left at the tail end of the project to focus on the other things he was working on.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Right but if the game is only 25% done when Tabata takes over and Nomura is gone, it's hard to fully realize that vision, is what I'm saying. I'm sure it's not as simple as saying Tabata stabbed Nomura in the back etc.
I think we're still getting it either at TGS or somewhere like PGW.
I think up until now they tried to hook up people with the game core mechanics, and will push out a story-focused trailer at the end for a final spike of hype.
At least i hope
GameFaqs gonna riot so bad.