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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II ⊰♖|OT|♖⊱ Stop! Or My Henry Will Swing His Sword!

pudel

Member
Couple questions, what are some must have skills you guys like and is there particular food for mutt that keeps his obedience up longer? I love mutt but I do feel like his obedience drops too quickly
Just feed him dry stuff....occasionaly some nice stuff. Praise him while feeding. He's always like 80+ with that to me.
 

Sgt.Asher

Member
I like the aftermath of the swordmaster quest. You help a master take down a bunch of larpers running a fake martial arts dojo. I then get to beat the shit out of the most obnoxious of the bunch.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo

I can't believe that 3rd person animations are so good, kinda want to play the game this way instead of 1st person for anything outside of combat. The mod is workin' but I think we should let it cook for a while, maybe author will make it easier to use without installing a bunch of stuff to make it work with a controller.
 
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Denton

Member
About done with stuff around Kuttenberg itself.

Running into bandits is fun.

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Skeletonscarecrow..

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War is a nasty business

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This fortress still stands today

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LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Bought, entered gaming trance and lost track of time. This is one of those special experiences.
Where you there for the first game? This is basically that plus good QoL improvements and tightening up of the whole package. It's got some little niggles here and there but this is a beauty.

I'm almost 50 hours in. Probably would have 20 more if it weren't for life obligations.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Where you there for the first game? This is basically that plus good QoL improvements and tightening up of the whole package. It's got some little niggles here and there but this is a beauty.

I'm almost 50 hours in. Probably would have 20 more if it weren't for life obligations.
Yeah, finished the first one at release. KCD2 is the kind of sequel everyone wants, I think. Staying true to the original but ++.
 

Myuni

Member
I guess I just botched a time critical quest with Lord Semine (was too busy opening all the chests in his manor). As a master lock picker, I'm helping the miller with his dirty deads now instead.

But before making too much story progress, my other talents must be honed first. So I forged a decent axe after completing this cool 'silver-axe' side quest from a drunkard in a tavern and playing some dice.
Also, my bow hunting skills need some attention, but right now I feel the itch to stealth murder all bandits who killed my comrades at the lake, and wonder how well that'll translate, for the only guy I have killed by now was a poacher who could not be reasoned with.

Also, I finally found a patch of 'St. John's Wort', which comes in handy for unlocking the last alchemy skills.
Man, there is so much to do in this game, and nothing I have encountered so far sucks. Even the music is (still) fantastic. Usually the first thing I do in modern games is to turn off the generic orchestral soundtrack, not so with KCD2.
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
The more I play this the more I'm convinced it's the best RPG ever, or at least an easy top 5. The writting, player agency, music and graphics are all amazing. Some jank here and there and the game is kinda easy but, aside from that, I don't have any complains.

The game's full of content, maybe even too much stuff to do lol, but it's all so well done that I never find myself tired of it.

pd: this comes from someone who still has to play the Gothics and the Vampires.
 
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Denton

Member
I just finished the last sidequest outside of Kuttenberg city proper and was on my way to uncover last cloud on the map before finally heading to Kuttenberg, when I stumbled upon some hut in the woods and there are people living there and I randomly get an unmarked two hour long really fun and well written quest (Heirloom) from it. Love surprises like these.
 

BbMajor7th

Member
Made it as far as the first fight and I've bailed. The combat is - I don't know how to describe it - but just a horrible experience personally. I'm utterly mind-boggled that a game this cinematic and story driven, with a named protagonist, chose to stick with first-person.

It's like watching someone cut wood with a shovel...
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Tough choice with Necessary Evil (toward the end of the first region).


At first I reluctantly chose to lie to cover for Semine, which got a special achievement and skipped a main quest uneventfully, so I reloaded and chose to reveal some info about them while trying to prevent a bloodbath. That was clearly the more interesting result but Semine was burned in the process.

I like that the choice is morally ambiguous and messy. You learn a lot about both sides of the conflict through the various quests up to that point, and most of it paints the rebels relatively sympathetically but in a way that may not resonate with you personally since they did almost kill you at the start of the game. A fine line between freedom fighters and bloodthirsty bandits.
 

Peroroncino

Member
Tough choice with Necessary Evil (toward the end of the first region).


At first I reluctantly chose to lie to cover for Semine, which got a special achievement and skipped a main quest uneventfully, so I reloaded and chose to reveal some info about them while trying to prevent a bloodbath. That was clearly the more interesting result but Semine was burned in the process.

I like that the choice is morally ambiguous and messy. You learn a lot about both sides of the conflict through the various quests up to that point, and most of it paints the rebels relatively sympathetically but in a way that may not resonate with you personally since they did almost kill you at the start of the game. A fine line between freedom fighters and bloodthirsty bandits.

Hah, I did the exact same thing. But ultimately I reloaded the for the second time and stuck with the covering for Semine approach.


Finished the game over the weekend and what can I say, it was a fantastic experience full of great moral conundrums both in narrative and in-gameplay, which is refreshing. The entire sequences of events near the end game is stuff I'll probably remember for a long time, talk about fantastic journey and equally amazing ending.

It is without a doubt my GOTY so far, I know it's early in the year, but games will have a tough time beating this for me.
 

struggler_guts

Gold Member
Made it as far as the first fight and I've bailed. The combat is - I don't know how to describe it - but just a horrible experience personally. I'm utterly mind-boggled that a game this cinematic and story driven, with a named protagonist, chose to stick with first-person.

It's like watching someone cut wood with a shovel...

1st person is best for immersion, and thankfully modders are well on their way implementing 3rd person.

And regarding the shovel metaphor, it's supposed to be that way at the start. You're essentially a cripple relearning how to use his body again. Makes more sense in the first one because youre learning it all for the first time, but sequels gottah progress reset
 

BbMajor7th

Member
1st person is best for immersion, and thankfully modders are well on their way implementing 3rd person.

And regarding the shovel metaphor, it's supposed to be that way at the start. You're essentially a cripple relearning how to use his body again. Makes more sense in the first one because youre learning it all for the first time, but sequels gottah progress reset
Not sure I'd agree on immersion. I get pretty immersed in films and TV shows and they're not first-person. In this case it's even weirder, because you're constantly being pulled into third person for dialogue and cutscenes.
 

struggler_guts

Gold Member
Not sure I'd agree on immersion. I get pretty immersed in films and TV shows and they're not first-person. In this case it's even weirder, because you're constantly being pulled into third person for dialogue and cutscenes.

Yeah everyone feels differently on perspective, like I said though if you have it on PC theres already a *working* 3rd person mod.

But if you're not in the mood for this slow type of progress/gameplay, definitely don't force it! I bounced off the first game 3 seperate times back in the day!
 

nemiroff

Gold Member
Not sure I'd agree on immersion. I get pretty immersed in films and TV shows and they're not first-person. In this case it's even weirder, because you're constantly being pulled into third person for dialogue and cutscenes.

I don't quite agree with that, to me, in videogames, it's about controlling the character through perspectives, and cut-scenes are still in first person perspective through the eyes of a third person observer. In KCD2 you're always in first person perspective, but changing berween observer mode in cut scenes. So there's no real discrepancy.

I made Gemini explain the argument for me:

In video games, "first-person" and "third-person" are fundamentally about the camera's placement relative to the player's controlled character.

First-person: The camera is positioned as if it were the character's eyes, providing a subjective view.

Third-person: The camera is positioned behind or above the character, allowing the player to see the character within the environment. This is very much a technical implementation of where the "camera" is placed.

Crucially, in games, the player directly controls the actions of the character seen (or unseen, in first-person). This direct control heavily influences how these perspectives are experienced.

In film, "third-person" refers more to the narrative perspective. It means the story is being told by an observer who is not a character within the story.

The core difference is the element of interactivity. In games, the player is actively participating, whereas in film, the viewer is passively observing.

Therefore, in games, the terms are more about the technical camera placement, while in film, they're more about the narrative's viewpoint.

The technical nature of video game camera placement creates a different meaning for "first-person" and "third-person" compared to the narrative focus of film.
 
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BbMajor7th

Member
Yeah everyone feels differently on perspective, like I said though if you have it on PC theres already a *working* 3rd person mod.

But if you're not in the mood for this slow type of progress/gameplay, definitely don't force it! I bounced off the first game 3 seperate times back in the day!
Damn, that's like me and the original RE4 - though I must've have bounced off that five or six times :D
 

Myuni

Member
So I approached this splendid 'Tomcat' guy to teach me some honest sword-fighting.
I mean, he did his best, I guess, by seriously beating me up with them wooden sticks and ruining my costly attire.
Though I didn't learn anything about how to properly wield a sword, I politely expressed my sincere thanks and left to bandage and heal, contemplating how to return the favor.

Well, well, well, Tommy didn't know what I did with those bandits down by the lake, the night before (my comrades were avenged, that's safe to say).
So I returned to the nomad's camp at midnight to demonstrate T.cat a valuable lesson about the supreme power of stealth warfare.

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Who needs your futile combat skills? Here they go right to hell with you!

And while I was at it, I also took care of this other unsufferable VoiVoi dude. No wonder Marika ran away, having such a cunt father and brothers!

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Still having plenty of time left until dawn, I did the only reasonable thing: silently murdering every single nomad soldier left and discarding the corpses by throwing them down the cliffs or hiding them in the woods.
It was like a ballet, and I spared (almost) all the women and the merchants, of course. :messenger_smiling_horns:
 

struggler_guts

Gold Member
So I approached this splendid 'Tomcat' guy to teach me some honest sword-fighting.
I mean, he did his best, I guess, by seriously beating me up with them wooden sticks and ruining my costly attire.
Though I didn't learn anything about how to properly wield a sword, I politely expressed my sincere thanks and left to bandage and heal, contemplating how to return the favor.

Well, well, well, Tommy didn't know what I did with those bandits down by the lake, the night before (my comrades were avenged, that's safe to say).
So I returned to the nomad's camp at midnight to demonstrate T.cat a valuable lesson about the supreme power of stealth
Who needs your futile combat skills? Here they go right to hell with you!

And while I was at it, I also took care of this other unsufferable VoiVoi dude. No wonder Marika ran away, having such a cunt father and brother
Still having plenty of time left until dawn, I did the only reasonable thing: silently murdering every single nomad soldier left and discarding the corpses by throwing them down the cliffs or hiding them in the woods.
It was like a ballet, and I spared (almost) all the women and the merchants, of course. :messenger_smiling_horns:

You utter savage hahahaha I love it

On another note, I'm replaying the first one currently at 28.7 hours and I still flinch every time I ride under a low hanging branch or bar...
 
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pudel

Member
A lot of small things. Cabbages being locked behind Very Hard locks, knight’s sword blueprint bugged, combat skills leveling too quickly, not many stealth oriented outfits, etc etc. Nothing is a dealbreaker on its own, but it adds up to be a good set of fixes and balances (on paper).
True. The best stealth outfit is the "cutpurse armor" which was one these "twich drops". :messenger_expressionless: But you can get it via ingame console (see spoiler) or look for mods which makes them available to buy from merchants.

Enter “-devmode” in Steam Properties
In game hit tilde (~) key to bring up console
Enter “wh_cheat_addItemX” and replace X with item ID to spawn items.
Cutpurse’s gambeson - wh_cheat_addItem 71ac5966-90bf-4406-bba9-6c75f81ac20f
Cutpurse’s hood - wh_cheat_addItem d172564b-6b94-4df5-93df-84093a657f42
Cutpurse’s trousers - wh_cheat_addItem 80cb6275-db4a-46a1-91d3-f24a5f4dfe88
Cutpurse’s shoes - wh_cheat_addItem 86eb09e2-7dcb-4c46-a357-a70c3749ba33
Cutpurse’s gloves - wh_cheat_addItem ef7d8509-667b-4d7f-920c-b22fcf646e18
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Performance went to shit on PC. Im having random drops from 100 to 50 just by looking at a random direction but if i move the camera a few meters away it goes back. Steam forum is full of it so im not the only one. Game looks incredibly tho i think it looks even better than it did
I get similar but not as bad. It is weird to be facing a random direction with less and it goes down to 50. It looks about the same to me although I'm sure there are visual improvements. Game looked great already.

Haven't even touched mods yet but see there's some necessary ones like more jiggle physics already available.
 

Luipadre

Gold Member
I get similar but not as bad. It is weird to be facing a random direction with less and it goes down to 50. It looks about the same to me although I'm sure there are visual improvements. Game looked great already.

Haven't even touched mods yet but see there's some necessary ones like more jiggle physics already available.

My overall fps is worse too outside of the city by like 30. These random drops by looking at a direction are really jarring and bad tho. Well i played the game on high and went to ultra with my new GPU. Didnt think the gfx would look this much better on ultra
 

Luipadre

Gold Member
Im glad i finished the game before this update lol. They will hotfix this bad boy for weeks. Releasing a huge patch for a complex game like this was a bad idea
 
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TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Seems to run just the same to me. 4K, DLSS4 on Balanced with the Transformer model, all on ultra, still 60fps on Kuttenberg.

edit: nah it's fucked outside the city.
 
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